<p>Race actually is among several nonacademic factors considered by admissions officers here, who say they assess applicants individually, and use no formulas. Being a Virginian or an athlete, having a parent who is a graduate of the university, or coming from a rural area of the state can also bolster one's chances ranks of Virginia's Many black the fact that only come under scrutiny.</p>
<p>Race clearly does carry a lot of weight in admissions, however. Data from the university show that, in selecting freshmen for the fall of 1998, officials accepted 56.3 per cent of black applicants and 45.8 per cent of white applicants who were Virginians. Among those from out of state, the university admitted 56.1 per cent of the black applicants and 20.1 per cent of the white applicants. Among those who accepted offers of admission, black students had an average SAT score of 1149, compared 1339 for white students.</p>
<p>University officials have asserted all of those admitted are qualified to be here. They have noted that 87 per cent of the university's black students graduate within six years, a figure only slightly lower than 92 per cent graduation rate for white students. According to data compiled annually by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, Virginia graduates a larger share of its black students than does any other Division I public college. </p>
<p>For OOS admission, it would consist of more high income folks right? So then wouldnt the OOS URM pool not only be smaller but be highly qualified also? And the acceptance rate for a small pool of OOS URM if judged by themselves would be higher because there simply arent as many OOS URM, as they are of asian/white OOSers</p>
<p>Here are some numbers from this year’s early decision -- </p>
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The early decision figures indicated slight increases among both African-American and Hispanic students over a year ago. There were 71 applications from African-American students this year compared with 62 a year ago. Of those, 46 were offered admission this year compared with 33 last year. Hispanic applications increased from 60 to 74 with 33 offered admission as opposed to 31 a year ago.
<p>I have been trying to get this type of data all year. The University goes out of their way to not give it even when asked direct questions about it. My Dtr is hispanic with good stats, but I could not get ave. SAT for OOS from UVA at all. I also met with them 1 on 1 and told them that we are not socioeconomically disadvantaged and that should be considered when offering admissions to URM,s. In other words-my daughter should get LESS of a bump than others of less means. They refused to give me data on OOS stats, but did say that all URM's are considered the same regardless of economics (which I think is wrong) My dtr has decided NOT to apply to UVA for several reasons, but one of them is their lack of transparency for OOS admits. Good luck to all.</p>
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I have been trying to get this type of data all year. The University goes out of their way to not give it even when asked direct questions about it. My Dtr is hispanic with good stats, but I could not get ave. SAT for OOS from UVA at all. I also met with them 1 on 1 and told them that we are not socioeconomically disadvantaged and that should be considered when offering admissions to URM,s. In other words-my daughter should get LESS of a bump than others of less means. They refused to give me data on OOS stats, but did say that all URM's are considered the same regardless of economics (which I think is wrong) My dtr has decided NOT to apply to UVA for several reasons, but one of them is their lack of transparency for OOS admits. Good luck to all.
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<p>it's interesting that you would see it the way many of us see it. It is an unfortunate flaw in the current way affirmative action is handled that many times they don't look at the economic standing (which in my opinion is much fairer) but instead look almost exclusively at race. But after all we aren't here to argue the system but to give others advice and information about it.</p>
<p>The point of affirmative action in this case is to increase the number of blacks, Hispanics, and Native Americans at a school, regardless of how well off they are. It's about the numbers so you can claim you have a 'diverse' community. If you looked at people based on economic standing you wouldn't be getting as many minorities.</p>
<p>how can you say oos percentages are the same?
56% of urms oos were accepter
20% of white students were accepted
thats more than twice the amount per student that applied...
its only a 10% difference in state</p>