<p>I was being overly conservative in saying competitive but not overwhelming. We're very competitive. I, as well as Students A and B, go to the highest ranked and highest endowed private day school in Michigan, and one of the top 3 private schools (including boarding) in Michigan. A regular class at my school is tougher than an honors class at 90% of public schools. 75% of admissions applicants are rejected - neither of these kids are stupid.</p>
<p>We had 3 kids accepted to Harvard this year out of a graduating class of 59 (and only 6 kids applied to Harvard BTW) - and one of the accepted ones had a 3.4 GPA. Only one of the 6 applicants had above a 4.0 GPA, and he was rejected.</p>
<p>It's interesting how we've started to talk about intelligence in relation to the SAT score. There are many people who are intelligent but don't test well, or don't apply themselves and make good grades.</p>
<p>I knew a girl who stood on the 4.0 stage with me every year of middle school, but she bombed the state standardized tests that I got 99th percentile on because she just stunk at timed bubble tests.</p>
<p>The Olsen twins got in because they're actresses and have insane amounts of money. It also helps NYU's publicity. But even so, the Olsen twins bothe scored around the 1400 range. You think NYU would let them in on a 1100? Nope.</p>
<p>NYU would let them in as long as they scored over 1000.</p>
<p>1400 range does not mean they are smart. That means they probably would have been around 1100 but mom and dad got them insane training and some sort of different test environment so they could do well.</p>
<p>Besides man, what's the point of defending the Olsen twins.</p>
<p>Those little duplicates are at NYU because now every little girl will consider that her dream school.</p>
<p>"lol student B is a slacker...anyways who strives for schools like BU and Michigan State?"</p>
<p>that is a ridiculous statment. BU is a GREAT school, and it is totally ignorant of you to say that anyone who strives for this school, or ANY school, is a slacker. and a 1300 is not a good score on the SAT? what world do some of you CCers live in?</p>
<p>Wow. Some people really need a reality check. Just because someone doesn't feel the need to go to the Ivy League to reassure them that they're "smarter than everyone else" doesn't mean they're stupid. Maybe money, or things besides the school's name's prestige matter to some people.</p>
<p>Yea, but you have to admit that people who get into a school that has prestige has a higher chance of getting the job than, say, someone from a CC. Besides, money makes me happy, money is my friend, I buy stuff with money, and if it means going to an Ivy League college and busting my ass, then so be it.</p>
<p>I don't think that going to ivy leagues gets you more money. A relative of mine hired a woman who went to Cornell, and she gets the same pay as anyone else. I know from what I've heard from the executives of companies, it's the degree they look at. Sure they'll say "wow" for a second, but as long as you went to a well recognized university it's fine.</p>
<p>A side note, my relative who hired this Cornell woman, did not go to college, makes a large six figure salary, and hires people to boss that did attend college.</p>
<p>There are a lot of factors in securing a job with a good salary. I'm not saying that college doesn't help, but that's not it.</p>
<p>I personally believe that someone who hires people will be slightly impressed by an Ivy League job applicant, but in the end may hire someone with more experienced, a more advanced degree, or maybe someone who had a better interview.</p>
<p>CCShamrock: I live in Michigan too, I don't think MSU is a bad school at all. Obviously next to Michigan it looks like **** but as far as state schools go it's pretty far up there. Michigan is the only state with two Big Ten schools. Not that that means it's an academically superior school, but it's a large, well known, well respected uinversity.</p>
<p>I have a friend that chose MSU over UM and a few other schools for international affairs because it's one of those select programs that MSU is stronger in than Michigan.</p>