To incoming Mudders: My story (c/o '00) (warning: kinda long)

<p>This information might be a bit dated since I entered in '96 and graduated in '00, but if this helps even one person, then I suppose it's probably worth it!</p>

<p>Let's see, where to start.... I graduated in 1996 from one of the better California public high schools with a 3.86 unweighted GPA and a 1400 SAT (back when it was only out of 1600). These weren't stellar scores by any stretch, but I was involved in a lot of things outside of school, and I was able to get into Mudd. I'd heard about how difficult Harvey Mudd was, but I didn't really take it to heart, because I was able to excel in high school with very little studying or preparing. I figured I'd probably have to study at Mudd, but nothing too demanding.</p>

<p>Freshman year:
The first semester went ok, as I passed all my classes (first semester is on a high pass/pass/fail scale), but didn't high-pass anything. Mudd was definitely a lot tougher than I'd anticipated, but I thought things were still going decently. A handful of my friends had failed classes so I figured I wasn't doing THAT bad. </p>

<p>Second semester was a little worse. My GPA was a 2.27, with a stellar D in chem, which to be honest I was ecstatic about because going into the final I'd had an F. I didn't fail any classes, which I was happy with, but going from almost all A's in high school to being happy not failing just a year later was quite a shock. But it's like they tell you during freshman orientation - 90% of you will no longer be in the top 10% of your class. </p>

<p>Sophomore year:
This is where the bottom started to fall out. After making a good group of friends my freshman year, my priorities shifted from academics to just having a good time, and my grades reflected this. I dropped baby stems (engineering class) because I was doing so poorly, and I still only managed a 1.90 GPA. I failed E&M, and so I basically only got credit for 10 units that semester and was placed on academic probation.</p>

<p>That winter break, I had a lot of thinking to do and had a lot of questions to answer - Do I belong here? Can I cut it at Mudd? Should I try transferring to another school? The very worst part of it all was that my parents were not rich, but were footing most of the bills, and it broke my heart to see them disappointed in me after all they'd sacrificed. I finally decided that since I was able to even get accepted to Mudd, and that I was able to get through freshman year unscathed, that I probably belonged there - I just needed to really focus on what needed to be done and do it and not dick around so much. Plus, what was transferring to another school going to accomplish? It would just have been a copout - that when the going got rough I just gave up. I didn't want that on my conscience.</p>

<p>A 'typical' semester load at Mudd is about 16 units. Thanks to my first-semester debacle, I'd have to take 18 units per semester for the next 3 semesters just to get back on track, so not only would I have to study more just to pass my classes, I'd have more classes to pass as well. </p>

<p>Second semester came and went without incident and I don't remember the exact GPA, but it was 3.3something. I was back on track.</p>

<p>Junior/Senior years:
I'm not going to tell you that I 4.0'd every semester, but I will say that I didn't fail another class, despite being involved in more outside of class. I was junior year class vice president, and I also wrote for the 5-C campus newspaper. Also, the rec center had opened up between sophomore and junior years so I had to make time to exercise and play basketball. </p>

<p>I graduated on time with an umpressive 2.65 GPA, but on a beautiful day in May of 2000, I received my diploma like any other student. Considering how I'd started out my college career, I was as proud and happy as any other person on that lawn. </p>

<p>Looking back 10 years later, I realize how happy I was with my decision to stay at Mudd. Obviously in that time I've had different obstacles and roadblocks both in my personal and academic/professional lives, but I was able to work through them and come out stronger in the end, much like my situation at Mudd.</p>

<p>Going into Mudd I was a shy, meek, and lazy boy, but 4 years later I emerged a confident, personable, hard-working young man. </p>

<p>They say that if you're an athlete and really want to excel in your field, you need to train/spar/scrimmage against players far better than you; not players who are below you. You don't gain anything beating up on inferior players. It was the same at Mudd. I was surrounded by some of the smartest people on the planet, and I benefitted just by being around them, talking to them, asking questions. </p>

<p>In all honesty I don't remember 99% of what I learned inside of those Mudd classrooms - I doubt any graduate of any school does. Because of Mudd I changed the way I look at issues, thanks to the countless conversations I had with my bright and diverse classmates. I changed the way I look at adversity and failure - not as a final destination but merely a stopover. I changed the way I look at myself, not as someone who is unsure and tentative, but someone who is supremely confident in his abilities. </p>

<p>Mudd changed my life. It will change yours as well. Don't give up.</p>

<p>Thank you very much for posting this! :D</p>

<p>What a lovely post. It brought tears to my eyes. I will stop worrying about DS who seems to be living on Red Bull at the moment!</p>

<p>Indeed, very good to read this. I was wondering, though, if you could clarify/expound upon the “word” “umpressive” about 3/4 of the way down?</p>

<p>hahaha woops, good catch. that’s what happens when you start typing stream-of-consciousness. It’s obviously supposed to be ‘unimpressive’ lol</p>

<p>haha wow firstdude. Way to be a stickler. :p</p>

<p>malgorium, thanks so much for posting your heartening story. If I may ask – how did your sophomore classes stack up against frosh classes in difficulty? Was the material considerably more difficult, or was your trouble mainly due to the lack of focus you mentioned?</p>

<p>I lovelovelove your comment about adversity and failure. I think a brush with failure can be healthy, because it teaches us that we can survive failure – the sun still comes up, the world is still there, you’re still the same person you were the day before. A good lesson to learn before the stakes are higher (e.g., job, mortgage, family), and probably a brand new experience for a lot of Mudders. Experience surviving failure ==> less fear of failure ==> greater willingness to take risks and push limits. And pushing our limits keeps them from closing in on us.</p>

<p>Kudos and applause to you for sticking it out and graduating!</p>

<p>geek_mom: you know, looking back on it, I don’t think they were that much more difficult. Baby stems was the only class where the material was truly brand new to me. I think that was what was hardest to take - that the classes weren’t impossible, yet I was still failing/doing poorly because of my horrible work habits and attendance. </p>

<p>If I’d given it everything I could and was still failing, I could at least look myself (and my parents) in the face and tell them I just couldn’t hack it. But to give up without even putting forth an honest day’s effort? That was the true failure, not my class grades. </p>

<p>I think if I had to start Mudd again right now, I’d do a lot better. My head’s planted on straighter and I’m more disciplined. But you know what they say - youth is wasted on the young!</p>

<p>Thanks for the info. As the mom of a rising soph (well, next week anyway), I’m glad to hear the courseload isn’t too different in intensity.

So many (especially the very bright) seem to take the opposite view: If I don’t give it all I have and I fail, well, I’m good enough and I could have done it if I’d tried; if I give it all I have and I fail, then I’m a real failure. I think your view is the better one.

And your experience then helped to make you what you are now. Sounds to me like you learned some important lessons and have put them to good use. Bravo!</p>

<p>Sorry, I wasn’t trying to be a dick - I was genuinely confused because either “impressive” or “unimpressive” could have made sense there (while “unimpressive” would have made more sense with reference to the actual number, “impressive” seemed to make more sense in the context of the entire sentence, and was also closer to what was actually written).</p>

<p>haha okay. I was just teasing you anyway. : p</p>

<p>@Malgorium - thanks for posting this. It is very helpful and I agree with geek_mom about your lessons learned…re: adversity and failure. What did you end up majoring in at HMC?</p>

<p>I read this a while ago but it didn’t mean too much to me, i thought it was kinda cool then.</p>

<p>As a frosh who has failed a course and has had to drop quite a few, i have definitely been not so happy lately to say the least, and considering whether or not i should be here. </p>

<p>Reading this story now has been pretty helpful. Thanks for sharing.</p>

<p>Blackroses - we were at the ASP and heard from more than one Mudder who is now fine but really struggled and doubted at some point. Freshman year is hard - shifting to the college schedule is a huge change and you now probably have a lot more distractions in the form of new friends and new activities. Keep in mind that HMC doesn’t admit anyone they don’t think can succeed. Talk to everyone - your friends, your professors, your parents - and best of luck.</p>

<p>It was timely and heartening to read this year-old thread again. I’m grateful to Clariano for bumping it.

From everything I’ve seen and heard so far, sophomore year is harder. @Blackroses, if you’re not already well acquainted with Dean Jacobsen, I’d suggest you get to know him – and run your sophomore-year schedule by him for some insight and strategizing. He’s very friendly and helpful. “Struggling in school” is yet another new and foreign experience for you top-of-the-high-school-class Mudders, and it can really make a difference to get some good advice along the way.</p>

<p>My son’s been part time college for a number of years (taking at most 3 college classes a semester) but I worry about his ability to handle 4-5 HMC courses a semester. He’s a procrastinator, too. :frowning: Should I discourage him from applying or encourage him to learn to time manage better in the next 1 1/2 years? He’s very social and very into his ECs. He loves math and physics and it’s always been so easy for him. He thinks he’ll be fine. I worry.</p>

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<p>The first semester is designed to ease them into it. Even you have bad habits to break, a lot of people do, and the pass-fail grading system will ensure you’re not punished for it as you adjust. I feel that most people are whipped into shape after first semester. I wouldn’t let that kind of thing stand in your way; for me, I learned to manage my time best after being tossed into the thick of things here.</p>

<p>Having done some college courses will help too - he will know a bit about time management. I also think you can probably trust the school not to admit him unless they think he can handle the work. BUt I’m a bit confused - is he a rising senior? (Meaning that he will be a senior fall of 2011.)</p>

<p>Right, nemom. He is a rising senior so he’s got another 1 1/2 years to learn to manage his time a bit better and take the reigns of his education completely. He’s homeschooled/part time college and I do a lot of administrative stuff for him.</p>

<p>Okay - well, I think he has plenty of time to learn the skills needed to be at college - which is different from taking some college courses. Mine is a HS senior, taking a full load of college courses right now. I don’t contact his professors at all and get very little info on grades, so he is having to learn to deal with things.
He should keep in mind that he may have to retake some courses, and would , presumably, start at Mudd as a frosh. So ,he might want to focus on classes that are a bit outside the core requirements.</p>