To major in math or not to major in math

<p>nicorobin90, I am an intended math major at Berkeley who wants to go to law school. I originally planned to major in economics, but then I took Math 55 and loved it. My suggestion is that you do the same: Take Math 55. It’ll shed insight into whether you want to be a math major.</p>

<p>As for difficulty, Berkeley has liberal add/drop policies. After you take Math 55, you can try taking a class like Math 104. Work at it for a few weeks. If it is impossibly difficult, then you can always drop the class with no hit to your GPA or mark on your transcript. You don’t have to make this decision blind.</p>

<p>Also, I’m not entirely sure where you got the average GPA number of 2.2, but I have seen sites skew those numbers. There are far more people taking Math 1A, 1B, 53, and 54 than the upper division classes and these lower division classes typically have harsher curves. This can give the impression that the average GPA for a math major is lower than it really is.</p>

<p>This is from an incoming freshmen who got in as a pure math major. I thought I wanted to do math until I actually visited Berkeley for three days. Berkeley’s math is not something you can relax on. I am hoping to get into another math related subject because pure math is for those who are talented, patient, and hard working. I find it weird how the math major’s acceptance rate is up in the 30 percents though. </p>

<p>Like many other people said, it is not really about solving a problem anymore, it is about proving it. Berkeley’s professors expect you to understand the subject in a totally different way that consists of a lot of logical thinking. It is not just memorizing the derivatives of the trig functions but understanding why they match each other. Math is something that is very easy to grade on. You either get it right or wrong. The professors may seem nice but they have their own things to do than hold undergraduates’ hands. I am simply sharing my opinion. I suggest you discuss this with a 4th year or graduated math major.</p>

<p>^^ actually, admittance into the math mjor itself is not competitive since it is in the college of L&S and everyone comes in undeclared. but yeah, i would talk to a fourth year major for the most comprehensive picture like the above poster said</p>

<p>I’m a 3rd year this coming year, and may be of assistance, given I’ve seen enough of the non-lower-division coursework.</p>

<p>The difference in upper division work is that you’re assumed to be there to learn the math theory. Many lower division classes aren’t run explicitly like math courses, where formal mathematical communication and reasoning are only for “the math majors” – well, in the upper division, everyone is treated like a math major. The goal of the pure math classes is for you to learn the major theorems and framework behind a refined theory which is considered a basic prerequisite to thinking about more complicated things. For instance, the rough aim of Math 110 will be to classify as much as you can about linear operators on vector spaces – you start off with axioms defining the domains of these functions, and then develop the theory of special linear operators which naturally show up in a diverse array of fields outside of and within mathematics. </p>

<p>In a course like Math 104, you work with objects that are no longer discrete, and thus must develop a formal way of doing any reasoning at all with them. The axioms here will be more intuitive in a sense, because they involve things like distance, which you can truly use your physical intuition to picture. Though, the challenge is translating physical intuition into clean mathematical writing. </p>

<p>As you go on after that, there are courses which use the theory of these objects that commonly show up in mathematics to do more sophisticated things. The goal, it must be stated, is not to write proofs, but to understand a theory, and be able to communicate in its language, which <em>does</em> involve communicating in a formal language. If you would rather use the math theory others have come up with to see applications to something you can more tangibly see, the math major may not be for you, even the applied math one, given a lot of pure math classes are required. </p>

<p>As mruncleramos says, a little ability and a little effort (which usually means some enthusiasm) will get you a long way. </p>

<p>As you go up in the math classes, actually, your homework becomes more and more important, because fewer things can be covered effectively on an exam. You’re no longer developing skills – you’re developing a working knowledge and ability to think about the main ideas of a refined theory. Thus, spending lots of time working at home and reading and writing sometimes lengthy proofs becomes necessary. Different professors will put different degrees of emphasis on different aspects. Some professors in upper division classes will make it as much as 40% credit for your homework. Though, of course this means you really can’t slack off on your weekly work. This is obviously unheard of in Math 1A-54, and it’d not make sense, given if they’re testing skills rather than knowledge of a theory, an exam makes more sense. Makes less sense as you go on and on. </p>

<p>Overall, I agree with posters who say to try it out and drop if you need to. Usually you’ll know by your first upper division class if you’re built for it.</p>

<p>And with that, I’ll unfortunately not be immediately around if anyone has something to ask, but if you PM me, I probably will get back in a few weeks. I probably can answer most questions about the math department that’d come up here.</p>

<p>any one here is familiar with stat major? I am thinking about either major in math or stat, but can decide which one to go? Any insights about stat major? </p>

<p>many thanks</p>