<p>Well I've finally decided and I'm going to Berkeley lol yay! I've already committed and my orientation is somewhat soon, so I've started to think about my classes for next year. I'm planning on getting all the pre-reqs for Haas done in my first two years, as well as the Econ pre-reqs (hoping to double major)...</p>
<p>So far it seems my schedule might be pretty "light"? Well I'm not sure. By the end of this summer I'll have Econ 1 done via AP credits most likely. And I've completed all the levels of calculus needed for both Haas and Econ. Therefore I don't have many pre-reqs left. Is this too light? Do you recommend I space out my pre-reqs so much or no? Should I do them in a different order? Any recommendations for good courses/profs?</p>
<p>And also, does it look bad to have so many pre-reqs (for me Econ 1 and all Math classes for Econ) completed via AP and not for a letter grade?</p>
<p>Please help me out, especially for my freshman year.</p>
<p>You don’t need to retake any of the things you have AP credit for. I think you can take Econ 100B your first semester if you want - Olney’s teaching it and is pretty awesome. You don’t need much of a background to be able understand the class and it would probably be more relevant/easier than Stats. UGBA 10 curves seem to be better in spring than in fall because everyone in fall is freaking out and intense because they have to apply to Haas that semester. And you want to take it your freshman year in case you decide you actually don’t even like business (like I did haha.)</p>
<p>So maybe this would work better?</p>
<p>Sem 1
Econ 100B</p>
<p>Sem 2
Stats 21
UGBA 10</p>
<p>Sem 3
Econ 100A</p>
<p>You can actually declare Econ after just taking one of 100A/B so you can be declared beginning soph year and get into upper division classes.</p>
<p>ah, thanks for the suggestions, flutterfly_28:</p>
<p>a few questions to you and anyone else who may be reading:</p>
<p>I can take Econ 100B before 100A? Probly stupid question lol but I thought A came before B.</p>
<p>You make it sound like STAT 21 is relatively tough. You think it’ll be do-able for me? I was able to finish the equivalent of Calc I, II, and III all by the end of my junior year. This year I haven’t taken a serious math course, and if I follow that schedule, I won’t be touching math again until I take Stats in the 2nd sem. Is it really calculus based? Cuz I might be rusty lol.</p>
<p>oh also, i am technically an undeclared/L & S student, would that give me less chance of getting into UGBA 10 since I’m not an undeclared/pre-Haas student?</p>
<p>Unfortunately, the Econ counselor told me I can’t take an “intermediate theory course” (which Econ 100B is, I presume) until my 2nd or 3rd semester. So I’d probably have to do stats 21 first semester, which make my pre-reqs look like this:</p>
<p>Sem 1
Stats 21</p>
<p>Sem 2
econ 100B
UGBA 10</p>
<p>Sem 3
Econ 100A</p>
<p>Is this a bad idea? Is Stats 21 a hard class to take in the first semester at Berkeley? Is Econ 100B do-able along with UGBA 10?</p>
<p>Also, a question about Econ 1. Would you recommend waiving out of the class thru AP Credits for an intended Econ major. Yes, through AP credits I don’t have to do the class.</p>
<p>But will taking the class really help me? In cheesy terms, is there anything really essential about Berkeley’s Econ 1 class that I’ll be missing out on by skipping it? Will waiving Econ 1 thru AP credits not give me proper preparation for Econ 100 and so on? </p>
<p>Or is it as a waste of time if I’ve already got the credits?</p>
<p>thanks. How about for Calculus, which I can also skip out completely on. Let me say again that I haven’t taken calculus in a year, though I was advanced enuf (luckily lol) in high school to finish it all by the end of my junior year. </p>
<p>I can skip out of Math 1A/16A and 1B/16B. Would it be a waste of time to retake at least 1B/16B? Thanks again!</p>
<p>lol I wouldn’t advise you to ever repeat anything mostly because you will probably end up lowering your GPA by taking more lower division weeder classes. All you really need to know is how to differentiate and integrate. If you don’t think you remember enough, you would probably be better off reviewing it from your AP books or whatever than from taking a whole class here.</p>
<p>I actually was stupid and tried to take 19 units first semester that included Math 1B, Econ 1, and UGBA 10. Ended up making math pass/no pass. I wish I had just skipped it, would have saved a lot of time and effort.</p>
<p>@flutteryfly: lol, econ 1, ba10, and 1b was my original schedule for spring. Thank goodness I waited to take econ next semester because I knew it would be a pretty rough semester if I had kept it.</p>
<p>I’m an Econ major. And yeah that was a pretty bad semester gradewise, ended up with B+s in both UGBA and Econ (good semester otherwise though did not spend a lot of time studying haha). Basically I just got really turned off from business after taking that class because I hated everything about it, from the grading schemes to the people in it. I didn’t know much about business, I was just in a high school business club and figured that was enough reason to do business. But yeah, I’m so glad I stopped with the Haas prereqs and started taking other classes because now I’m an Econ/MCB double major. </p>
<p>What do you want to do with a business major? Unless you like finance/banking, you’re probably going to be really really bored and find that you can’t go very far with the degree (the only positions they talked about at career fairs were like floor manager at Target). And you can always get an MBA later! So just take UGBA10 your first year and don’t be too set on business haha.</p>
<p>I agree about BA10. I just finished this course last week and I have to say it doesn’t exactly tests you on your Business knowledge. The exams test how well you can memorize what Robinson tells you but I guess the papers require you to do a bit more thinking.</p>
<p>I am a biz and econ double major. I disliked BA10 because 1. Robinson taught it and 2. the material seemed so common sense. However, the curves are high, so you have to test well on common sense to get a good grade. =P</p>
<p>That being said, upper div biz classes are NOTHING like BA10. I really enjoy my upper div classes as a biz major, even though BA10 was a letdown.</p>
<p>Also, speaking from personal experience, there is a fairly strong preference for biz majors over econ majors for many employers. At the very least, having a biz major will not disadvantage you against an econ major. I don’t know who flutterfly has been talking to at career fairs, but there are a ton of different jobs out there besides floor manager. Flutterfly is very biased against the biz major, for whatever reason, so take what she says about the major with a grain of salt. I decided to double in biz and econ, and do not regret either major. They are very different, and I like both of them for different reasons. Haas will get you the job and connections more easily, though.</p>
<p>If you don’t take econ 1, at least audit part of the class and skim through the test material. Econ at berkeley is a lot harder than econ at HS. I had a particularly difficult GSI, which meant that while econ 1 was really tough (never taken econ classes), the 100 series was an absolute joke. Also, make sure you spend a lot of time on stats, because it is harder than any prereq class by a longshot.</p>
<p>I don’t know why everyone hates Robinson and UGBA 10. I personally found him to be one of the most interesting professors and his lectures were actually fairly entertaining. None of the upper div Haas classes are nearly as exciting. BA 10 is a very important class, particularly in regards to Mod papers. It really helps you think how to write in business, which is all about putting a great deal of info into very concise, yet informative paragraphs.</p>
<p>i’ve never been a huge fan of robinson’s teaching style. and i’ve had him THREE TIMES already, and for one of those classes, he was the GSI as well as the lecturer, yikes! i will concede and say that he is extremely organized and on top of everything, which i deeply appreciate. however, he seems to have mood swings. on some days, he’s in a good mood and is nice to people. on other days, he’ll tear people apart for saying something he doesn’t agree with. it really makes participation a gamble, because you don’t know if he’s going to compliment you or destroy you for your comments in class/discussion.</p>
<p>i didn’t like BA10 because i wasn’t particularly interested in the material, but i was forced to grit my teeth and get through it. it didn’t help that many others felt the same way. BA10 actually made me question if i wanted to pursue biz as a major. however, i agree that the module papers were fairly useful and taught me better biz writing skills.</p>
<p>incoming freshmen here looking to major in Economics x_x I was wondering </p>
<p>Is there anyway to skip Econ 1 or take 100B before it if I take the macroeconomics AP and get a 5? or would i have had to take the micro AP one too =|? and how is DeLong as a econ professor because I do want to take a economics class my first semester (don’t know if I’m allowed to get Econ 1, hahah, if not any recommendations?)</p>