To people who say All Ivys are a "reach"

<p>BS. Let's think about it for a second. Does anyone here really think that a student with a 4.0, 33-36 ACT, Leadership,fantastic ecs,fantastic essays, and great letters is going to be rejected from every SINGLE ivy league school? If that were the case then the students who claim they have written excellent essays and claim have great letters probably did not or have not. /rant</p>

<p>This post is meant to comfort those students applying to these schools. If you don't get into one of them there is an almost 100% chance you will get into 1 or multiple others.</p>

<p>Probabilities of getting into Ivy schools are not mutually exclusive. They are independent.</p>

<p>Your logic - One applies to Harvard and Cornell and gets rejected from Cornell. He will get into Harvard 100%.</p>

<p>Yes they will get rejected.
I for one, had:
4.6 GPA (4.0 non-weighted)
2340 SAT score from a single sitting
“Great Essay” edited by a local published writer
EC’s including:
varsity baseball
varsity soccer
local youth orchestra
300+ hours of community service.</p>

<p>Rejected from every single Ivy I applied to. Ended up at UC Berkeley.</p>

<p>It’s possible. It happened to my sister’s friend; she’s studying Business at USC now.
As it was stated before, admission to Ivies are independent. You’d have the same chances for one single Ivy regardless of whether you applied to one or all.</p>

<p>It’s like saying if you a flip a coin 100 times in a row and you get all heads, then the 101th flip must be tails.</p>

<p>The people with those kinds of stats that get rejected are either idiots or had way too many opportunities and didn’t capitalize on them (to the point where having a 4.0 GPA and perfect test scores is considered too underachieving).</p>

<p>@Spirral</p>

<p>Here’s my logic. Student’s who claim have ivy league stats, leadership, and ECS shouldn’t have trouble getting into one. If they do get rejected from every single IVY then there’s got to be something that’s not being said…right?</p>

<p>@boby642
If a student is chasing prestige only then that would show in their application…especially in their essay. Which means their essay probably wasn’t that good.</p>

<p>@wumanizer
Well then there’s a VERY good chance the next flip will be tails.</p>

<p>Even if a student cures cancer, they can still get rejected to Ivies. There’s nothing that says any Ivy has to accept a person based on anything. You could say they made the wrong choice, but it’s their decision. You can’t have a 100% chance to get into any Ivy.</p>

<p>@boby642, No. Someone’s chances in one single Ivy school does not increase if they apply to more. Also, the link you gave us doesn’t go through.</p>

<p>@lilbbased: I was just giving vivendium an idea…It wasn’t supposed to portray the actual chances of getting into an Ivy League school (I probably should have used a die instead of a coin).</p>

<p>@BBanks- It’s not 100%, but for some people, some Ivys really are matches or high matches rather than reaches, especially if they apply ED. Let’s not kid ourselves here.</p>

<p>For the double-Harvard legacy African American whose parents donated $300m, and who has perfect stats across the board, who was invited on a diplomatic internship, is captain of a Varsity sport that has won national accolades, who won STS Finalist/ISEF Best of Category, with reasonable writing/application-filling/interviewing capabilities, I think it’s pretty safe to say that Harvard is a safety (pun intended).</p>