<p>At SUNY UB, there is a one semester calculus class just for the business students and then there is the regular one everyone else. Is it better to take the regular calculus since you learn more and the business calc you just learn parts of it?</p>
<p>I failed business calc between 7 and 9 times, so I can speak with authority on the subject. It's probably the hardest class you will ever take as a business major, no matter your specialty, because of the sheer reams of memorization you are subjected to.</p>
<p>Math teachers are renowned for their horrible communicatory abilities. While so many classes use powerpoint slides these days in pretty much every subject area, math teachers prefer to write on the board with sloppy handwriting, and then erase it with a chalk-covered eraser. There is absolutely no exception to this. Even if you're 70 feet from the board, and the board is beneath a shadow, it matters not, they do it the same way as if it were a class of 10 By the end of class, the board is caked in a film of chalk nearly 1.5mm thick. Depending on how good your eyesight is, you might only miss a few details. But if your sloppy-handwriting-reading-ability isn't up to par, you will be doomed even with perfect vision. I took advantage of my mother's health insurance policy before it ran out and obtained a pair of glasses which increased my vision from 20/20 to 20/10 (on par with Ted Williams). This helped in increasing my score in business calc from an average of 7% in my six previous failures to a 10%. Still, it was not a grade sufficient to pass (about a 20), so I failed miserably.</p>
<p>This, by the way, is an excellent segue into my latest theory: Boys only do better in math because a.) statistically proven superior eyesight and b.) because we have sloppy handwriting, we find it easier to read sloppy handwriting.</p>
<p>I truly believe this to be true.</p>
<p>btw, taxguy is gonna tell you to take diff EQ because quantitative rigor is just the best damn thing in the world. You would do well to ignore him.</p>
<p>what the **** are you talking about</p>
<p>Usually a specific math class is required in business school. If a specific one is not required then it shouldn't really matter. Business Calc is just one of those weed out classes. The content you learn in it is pretty insignificant anyway just because you'll forget most of it.</p>
<p>Go for the obvious choice and take Business Calc. I took it and found it pretty damn easy, and I'm not a math guy at all...Just brush up on your college algebra and you'll be good.</p>
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<p>Be that as it may, it's still the hardest class you've ever taken in your life.</p>
<p>Obviously you didn't take organic chemistry.</p>
<p>Business calc is easier b/c you're competing with other business students who also have no idea what they're doing. Regular calc is harder b/c you're competing against engineering students and others who are fluent in calc.</p>
<p>Dude, football, Business Calc was NOT hard at all.
I am not sure how the hell you can fail it once...but 7-9 times like you claim?
What the hell. You shouldn't even be allowed in the business school if that's true.</p>
<p>Even if you think it's easy, it is undoubtedly the hardest class you'll take as a business major. I highly doubt you can name one class in the business curriculum that's anywhere approaching the raw difficulty of business calc. I was not permitted to enter business school after failing it 7 times in four different schools (since some only let u retake once and plus I was redshirted).</p>
<p>Calc is definitely not the hardest class you take as a business major unless you are taking only the easiest possible classes. What other classes have you taken that none of them are more difficult?</p>
<p>Football,</p>
<p>Your disrespect towards Taxguy is absolutely ridiculous. It seriously needs to stop. Grow up, taxguy is just trying to help people out... He doesen't have to share his expertise with us, but he wants to make sure our generation is on the right track.</p>
<p>Grow up</p>
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<p>What classes have you taken in your business school that are harder than business calc? Name one. Just one.</p>
<p>Think about it. The curve to pass business calc which I did not satisfy was about a 20% most of the time. For one of my failures it was as high a 55%, the other was about an 11-12%. If you want to pass any other class in your business school, you'll need a 65 to effectively a 75%. This is indicative of how much harder business calc is when the class average is so much lower when it's the exact same kids. Numbers don't lie.</p>
<p>Finance is harder. I'd say 1/3 of the classes you take for your finance major are harder. It's really not a hard class at all, maybe you are just not good in the subject? I have 'tarded friends that got Bs in the class with only about 20 hours in the math lab all semester. And these are people who are lackluster at best in academics.</p>
<p>20 hours in the math lab? That's quite a bit. That's not even counting time in just the regular ol' library right?</p>
<p>No individual finance class can claim to touch business calc in terms of conceptual difficulty as well as memorization volume. That's why calc is worth 4 credits and finance classes are worth 3 credits.</p>
<p>Football, your comments are beyond ridiculous. Just because you found BUSINESS CALCULUS hard, not everyone would think it's hard. Have you even taken finance classes? It doesn't seem likely that you are even in a business school considering you failed business calc 7-9 times as you claim.<br>
Do us all a favor and log out of the business forums.</p>
<p>20 hours total study time, there is no library time</p>
<p>Right, because arithmetic in the finance classes is more challenging than the quantitative rigor of calculus. The massive, unending reams of memorization. The books which do not explain how to do the problems, and do several dozen different types of problems within one chapter. The 3d stuff. Did I mention the at least 20-40 things you need to memorize each chapter just to do the problems? Please tell me how arithmetic+memorization is anywhere close to the rigor of calculus+much much more memorization.</p>
<p>Let me make myself clear on one thing. I was in no way comparing finance to business calculus...two totally different subjects.</p>
<p>Yes, especially in terms of challenge. And the number of credit hours received.</p>
<p>sp1212 & football both of you SHUT UP!!! Your constant arguing is ridiculous so knock it off, goddamn. </p>
<p>Honestly it really depends on the school because some will require you to take regular calc regardless they have b-calc or not and others will say b-calc. So it depends on the school and major.</p>