<p>agreed and columbia people should stop bashing on Penn. I think columbia's a great school and was even considering applying to it but it just wasn't for me. It's only going to end if arrogance and stubborness on both side is stopped (including myself). For me Penn is not only better than columbia but any other school, but I do agree that that is not an absolute fact. </p>
<p>In fact education is not absolute but only depending on the student. I'm sure you guys think that Columbia is the best and that's cool, jsut don't try to bring down penn to try to feel better about yourselves (and vice versa) </p>
<p>In the end they are in the Ivy league, and let it remain that way. Have it be a league of top schools not just 3 or 4 top schools.</p>