<p>Hello everyone. I just took TOEFL today and got estimated score of 220-273. Can anyone tell me what score do I need to get in essay to have a score of at least 250? I couldn't find it anywhere. Thanks</p>
<p>Teddy</p>
<p>Actually, I don't think I will be able to make accurate predictions, because the scale is not quite clear(at least I got this impression from my observation) What I can tell you for sure is that a score of 6.00 will give you 273, and a score of 4.0-4.5 perhaps around 250-260.</p>
<p>Is TOEFL required if you get a score >700 in the verbal section of the SAT I? Cuz' most universities don't really mention if you can substitute your SAT marks for your TOEFL.</p>
<p>Thanks Vasselina. It's all I got
listening 27
structure 13-29
reading 26
overall score 220-273</p>
<p>In some colleges you don't have to take TOEFL if you scored well on your sat verbal. To be sure - read on their website or call them</p>
<p>Yeah, downtheway, I had the same question. Also I don't see the point of taking TOEFL if you are taking normal english classes in school. ;)</p>
<p>is it ok if I send my TOEFL scores before I submit my application? And how will I know that the colleges I am applying to received my TOEFL and SAT scores?</p>
<p>When in doubt, send the TOEFL scores. Yes it costs money but you will sleep soundly. Some colleges (regardless of prestigiousness) do allow for substitutes while others don't. If they don't give you options or substitutes in their instruction for internationals, they probably won't accept them.</p>
<p>Damn... but I agree with wardenx. If our language of instruction is English, we shouldn't be asked to take a test (and a really lame one, from what I've heard) to prove that we can speak English. Well, I'm just going to mail all the universities I'm applying to and ask them to clarify this. Thanks a lot for your help guys.</p>
<p>It's really okay to not give the TOEFL if the SAT verbal is like 700ish. I don't think any place will be uncompromising about getting TOEFL results from intls.</p>
<p>When you're applying to places that ask for the TOEFL, just write them a letter saying that the medium of instruction at your school is English, your SAT verbal demonstrates high enough English language skills, and for good measure, you could also throw in that the TOEFL is just too damn costly ;)</p>
<p>^ only if you need to do that, of course. I don't remember which school it was but I did read on their website about students with >600 verbals being exempted.</p>
<p>And Chicago says:</p>
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The only exceptions are for applicants who for two or more years have attended a high school in the U.S., or who for two or more years have attended a high school where the primary language of instruction is English in a country where English is one of the official languages (England, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong, India, or Pakistan, for example).
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<p>Goodies! Thanks a lot for all your help guys. Well, that's one 120 dollars saved.</p>
<p>Lol. I didn't know it was THAT expensive. Yeah, will have to clarify that with the colleges I'm applying to.</p>
<p>If you don't have to take the TOEFL for the schools you apply to you are very very lucky!!! Yesterday I had my TOEFL score sent to the schools I am applying to (via phone) and I paid 204$ to have it sent to 12 schools (12$ for one call, 15$ per score report --> you can just have 6 score reports per call)! So that is already 324$ just for the TOEFL!!! Try to save that money if you can!</p>
<p>Do you know any other university who says similar things for 600+</p>
<p>Wow! 324 dollars... there's no way I'm paying all that. One of my friends told me you didn't need to give your TOEFL if you got above a 680, so I don't know if your thing would be okay Cres. Although most colleges might be surprisingly willing to listen if you get really good marks on your SAT II Writing.</p>
<p>Actually, the policy regarding whether or not you should mail in your TOEFL scores depend on the colleges. Some colleges will accept photocopies of our personal score report that is certified by the school, others want official copies. Some are generous (and smart) enough to waive the TOEFL requirement if we score above x on our SATs. Check with the schools, they have different requirements. But either way, I think it's safer to just take the TOEFL and then send them only to the schools that require them.</p>
<p>guys i too want to know if i can waive my toefl requirements. i got 620 verbal(screwed up big time). but i also have a 95 in my english at school. can i request unis to waive my toefl requirements if they are on of the major ones. i really don't like the idea of me paying the cash.</p>
<p>One question: Can you get on Toefl more than 250 if you get in listening section scores near zero, but a perfect scores in other sections?</p>
<p>[(Reading + Structure/Writing + Listening)<em>10]/3 = [(30 + 30 + 0)</em>10]/3 = 600/3 = 200
That would be the result from having perfect scores (30!) on reading and grammar, but zero on listening...
For a total of 250 you'll need at least 15 on listening</p>
<p>replying to cres - penn says toefl may be waived if you have 670 or above for either SAT II Writing or SAT I Verbal. harvard don require toefl at all; stanford, princeton insist that you take it. MIT gives two choices for intl; take SAT II Writing in place of TOEFL.</p>
<p>replying to arseus - you will hv to check with the unis first. some insist that you send. others may grant a waiver. but I think the only waiver that they give is for high scores in the SATs. IMHO.</p>