Toefl?

<p>I just found out that the TOEFL test may be required or strongly encouraged for applicants whose first language is not English. Mine isn't, but I started speaking it 8 years ago and am now fluent and speak/read/write it naturally. Furthermore, I got scores of 35 on my ACT in English and 36 in Reading, as well as 740 on my Verbal SAT and 770 on the Writing.</p>

<p>So basically my question is: do I still have to take the TOEFL test?</p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>If you have over 700 on your Verbal, you do NOT have to take TOEFL.</p>

<p>Are you sure? Because I'm reading that since the SAT and ACT were not designed to test your English proficiency, they do not necessarily assure the school of your fluency.</p>

<p>Well I guess then you should take TOEFL... if your Verbal mark is 740 and your writing mark is 770, you'll definitely get a VERY high mark on the TOEFL</p>

<p>E-mail the schools or visit their websites... but e-mail them : )</p>

<p>I thought I was done with standardized testing.</p>

<p>Plus, this test costs $150 and is 4.5 hours long...</p>

<p>again... you don't NEED to take it... but i guess you should if you don't feel safe...</p>

<p>lol, you scored higher than most native speakers. Maybe natives should take the toefl.</p>

<p>same for citizenship tests! lol. Very ironic that immigrants know more about history and government than natives.</p>

<p>Does anyone else have any input about this?</p>

<p>no, you are fine. The time, effort, and money.....not worth it. Your scores are fine. If you feel that you must tell them about this, talk about it during an interview or in the additional info section. I think that helps more than TOEFL.</p>

<p>I guess I'll e-mail the schools.</p>

<p>Thanks for the quick replies everyone!</p>

<p>Well.. U did spell Toefl incorrectly.</p>

<p>Yes, I noticed that after I hit "submit" in my frenzy to get my question answered. Unfortunately, it is impossible (to my knowledge) to edit titles.</p>

<p>Sorry I don't meet your standards.</p>

<p>Check your university. Most schools have a language requirement waiver with a score of 600 or higher on the CR section.</p>

<p>Won't your essay prove your fluency too?</p>

<p>I think that for Yale for example you do have to take it no matter what... I scored 780 on Writing and will still take it this Saturday...</p>

<p>No, for Yale it says that you don't have to take it if you have received at least two years of of your secondary education in an English-medium curriculum.</p>