Seattle is an elitist who thinks/wants USC to be mentioned in the same mold as the Ivies, Stanford, UC Berkeley, Chicago, etc. It won’t happen until USC sheds its football image (which is gradually happening) and becomes associated with Nobel Prizes, etc. For whatever reasons, Seattle equates community college transfers as low achievers and not good enough for USC. There are many community college students who are bright and hard working. They are there for various reasons…mostly financial.
btw, saying transfers are “usually harder working than incoming freshman” is just as narrow minded and derogatory as saying transfers are not as good as those that came in as freshman. Combating hate with more hate is never productive.
Other than “mickey mouse” courses, my term for hard working was meant that students have to study and do the work to earn A’s. We should all know that for the hard sciences and math, most students work harder to earn A’s in courses for engineering, health science majors, computer science, which all includes physics, chemistry, biology, calculus/linear math, etc., than courses for business, sociology, drama, economics, etc.
Harder working can be interpreted to mean less smart than higher achieving high school seniors who studied in high school and are naturally smarter. I’m sure there are many capable cc educated students but until Nikias leaves, I will fight to keep USC a four year school, not two year trade school. Btw, some of my most difficult courses were GE requirements. I’m sure they are filled with very smart freshmen today, making such courses far more challenging than the illustrious Rio Hondo CC, among others.
Keep it up. I’m surprised someone out of school for such a lengthy time still posts on these forums.
Hard work beats innate talent when innate talent doesn’t work hard.
The high school kids reading this should also remember that USC has around 375,000 living alumni right now and our opinions should all be weighted accordingly. Unless you are donating big bucks - and they track who’s capable of that and go after those people - then your opinion is nothing more than 1 of 375,000.
As I said above, I don’t hear any older alums complaining about how the Mork, trustee, presidential, etc. scholarship programs have bought off high achieving kids and increased the quality of the undergraduate student body. Funny how programs that increase the quality of the student body are good, while programs that may remotely decrease the quality of the student body are bad - as though prestige is the only thing that a school is good for.
According to the Spring 2016 issue of the USC Trojan magazine for alumni and friends of USC, a third of the entering transfers are first generation of their family to attend college and 20 to 25% of the USC undergraduates are transfer students. Also, the average college GPA for new transfers is 3.7, which means they have to be fairly smart to get in.