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<p>Seriously? Last time I checked Christians were the majority in America. You really have no right to complain about religious discrimination in the US unless you are Muslim.<br>
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<p>I live in Chesire, CT and I am very familiar with Wesleyan students (if you can call them that). </p>
<p>Faithful Christians have viewed homosexuality as a disorder for 2,000 years since Saint Paul wrote the Letter to the Romans. Faithful Jews have viewed sodomy as an offense against God since the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Any curriculum that embraces the folly of gay and lesbianism is a poor one. I would never spend a penny for my son to study the perversion of gay literature. </p>
<p>I am sure that many of the ever tolerant liberals want nothing other than to silence me and take away my right to hold this Christian view. Thank God they did not write the Bill of Rights.</p>
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<p>Christians are persecuted daily in the media and on this thread. I do not see any comments in the media or on this discussion persecuting Muslims. The only group of people that are fair game in the United States today are the Christians. This thread is a clear demonstration of that.</p>
<p>Thank God for Christendom College and other colleges like it where the youth can still earn a solid education.</p>
<p>is it any wonder that here in America, where people came to throw off the shackles of narrow minded, medieval thinking and religious intolerance , that those who continue to display such extraordinary close mindedness, as illustrated above, are less thought less of by those in the educational community?</p>
<p>“Faithful Christians” have come in the 21st Century to have a divergence of views about homosexuality, with some of us understanding Paul’s writing about it as culturally conditioned as his commands to slaves to obey their masters or women to remain silent in churches. </p>
<p>I have no intention of turning this into a debate on Christianity, but non-Christians need to understand. that not all of us who follow Christ agree on this. </p>
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<p>There is definitely discrimination against Christians- and white people in general- in the United States. It’s not okay to say something negative about non-Americans, for fear of being “racist,” but an asian, a mexican, a black person, an indian, can say something negative about a white person. It’s okay, I can’t be racist, I’m brown, they tell me. Just because white people treated non-whites badly in the past does not make it okay for non-white people to treat me badly today. I never owned a slave, nor did my parents or my grandparents. I live in California. I am white, and in the twenty first century that makes me a minority in my state. Asians in my class think I am lying when I- a white girl- tell them I got a higher grade than them, or a higher SAT score than them without taking prep classes!</p>
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<p>I live in Nashville, TN so I must be very familiar with Vandy students…Right. I am thinking you probably met a dozen and formed a negative conclusion about them based on your existing viewpoints. Who knows?</p>
<p>Hahaha. Do you know anything about Judaism? The Jews view Soddom and Gommorah as a crime about property. Both reform and conservative Jews, two of the largest sects today, both allow for gay marriage. But this is off topic, sooo…</p>
<p>Deists wrote the Bill of Rights. If people like you wrote the book of rights, homosexuality would probably be punished by stoning or whatever, or maybe we would have a theology.</p>
<p>Anyways, I looked up Christendom College, and I found that I would not like to go there. Some reasons include not being able to watch Disney movies (any of them) without permission, and not being able to hold hands without being fined. (I guess if I wanted to hold my female friends’ hands there, I would be called a lesbian) Call me depraved, but those rules seem a little bit out there.</p>
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<p>You must have missed the news about attempts to prevent the building of Muslim mosques in New York and Tennessee because of the religious affiliation.</p>
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<p>No, I can’t.</p>
<p>Now you answer my question. Why should I care? What is essential about speaking a dead language? How is quoting Cicero from memory more important than, say, understanding the contributions of women to our society and the cultural history of their second-class status? Which is more relevant to life in a modern world?</p>
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<p>For me here’s the thing … if the book focussed and ranked schools that do or do not provide a traditional liberal arts education and if schools allow diversity of thought and did this in a unbiased way I think that would very valuable. Much more valuable than ranking schools by SAT scores or peer review ratings for example. The guide would be VERY helpful for students looking for this kind of education and equally valuable for those looking for schools that allow a lot of freedom from this tradition. Similar books on other educational approaches would be similarily interesting. It’s too bad this book is written with such a (IMO) biased viewpoint.</p>
<p>3togo, I agree. When I started reading the website, I got excited, because it promised in-depth rankings based on conservative educational values. Unfortunately, once I got to the lists, it became obvious that it was mostly about conservative politics and fundamentalist Christianity, with a couple red herrings thrown in at the top of the recommended list. </p>
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<p>I’m a graduate of one of those schools, but admit I cannot quote Herodotus and Cicero from memory extensively in Greek and Latin (um, it’s been a while.) antioch1098’s son must be an exceptional young man, considering how many philosophers, poets, playwrights, novelists, historians, painters, sculptors, architects, and musicians have contributed to the major works of Western Civilization in the last 2500 years or so.</p>
<p>Is this thread political yet?</p>
<p>DB/OP- why did you start this thread, anyway?</p>
<p>Columbia College, in sinful NYC, still has a required “Core Curriculum,” in which students are required to read classics in philosophy, political theory, and literature, with a focus on ancient texts.</p>
<p>As an Amherst undergraduate, I argue that open curricula are blessings for the intellectually mature and curious, and curses on the intellectually immature and indolent. Then again, absurd distribution requirements are not a sensible solution either. It does not make sense to waste students’ resources by forcing them to take courses like “Rocks for Jocks” or “Physics for Poets” to fulfill a distribution requirement.</p>
<p>Harold Varmus, Amherst’s fourth Nobel Prize-winning graduate, former president of Sloan-Kettering and current director of the National Cancer Institute, delivered last year’s address to incoming freshmen. Basically, he told them that they could be whatever they wanted to be. What he failed to mention is that he attended Amherst at a time when all undergraduates were compelled to study one year of biochemistry and calculus-intensive physics. It is not surprising, then, that he was able to enroll at Columbia med school when he realized that an English Ph.D. from Harvard was not his calling. Today’s graduates simply do not have that raw intellectual horsepower and the career flexibility that yesterday’s graduates had.</p>
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<p>He also graduated Amherst in the early 1960s, when the percentage of people with bachelor’s degrees was much less, so competition for jobs for those with bachelor’s degrees and graduate/professional school places was much less.</p>
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<p>With the expansion of university attendance, the average may be lower, but there are likely more brilliant graduates now as there were then. But competition for jobs for those with bachelor’s degrees and graduate/professional school places is much fiercer now than then (more total bachelor’s degree holders, and more brilliant, or at least very good, ones to compete with).</p>
<p>Antioch is an obvious ■■■■■.</p>
<p>He lists himself as a 34 year old on CC (born 1977).
He supposedly has a son who is junior at Christendom College. Unless the admit middle school children that seems implausible.
Antioch claims to be a second generation graduate from Princeton.
In another post he is a graduate of both Quinnipiac U. and Sacred Heart University.</p>
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<p>That’s weird to be ■■■■■■■■ like this. Maybe he had a kid when he was 14 or something.</p>
<p>EDIT: Apparently he is a graduate of Fairfield University too. How humble of him not to mention he also went to Princeton in that post.</p>
<p>What makes this weirder is that he posted in some random thread about someone choosing between Sacred Heart and Quinnipiac. I don’t see how it’s remotely funny or amusing messing around with someone there.</p>
<p>lol @ whining about people not tolerating your intolerance. “I hate gays. You must tolerate me! That’s a Christian view!” (I’m sure people who supported slavery believed that others should be tolerant of their view because the Bible condones it.)</p>
<p>Not all Catholics/Christians are the same Phantasmagoric. It really depends on how one was taught/raised. I consider myself a staunch Catholic, but I was taught to respect all of God’s creations equally both by the priests who taught me and by my parents and siblings who raised me. Those values of tolerance and respect are not bound to any one religion. I have friends who are Muslim and others that are atheist but they were raised with similar values. Personally, I was taught three guiding principles by the Maronite priests who helped guide me on my spiritual journey:</p>
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<p>As a mere mortal, I can only try to live by those principles, but I am sure I falter often along the way. One thing is certain, however, not all religious people are the same. How was is taught to approach religion plays a huge role too.</p>
<p>Ironically, the Maronite church originates from Antioch! ;)</p>
<p>Oh I don’t assume that every Catholic or Christian is the same, by any means. (One of my parents is Catholic, the other Muslim, and I’m atheist. Funny how that works.) It always does grate on me though to hear someone decrying others’ intolerance of his/her intolerance - the epitome of hypocrisy IMO. I highly value (reasonable) tolerance and have never needed a book to inculcate that value in me - as you suggest, it’s a value that should exist across religions and, in my case, without them. Although I didn’t become an atheist until age 11, it certainly wasn’t my parents’ religions that instilled tolerance (quite the opposite, actually), although I don’t deny that others have a different experience.</p>