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<p>This list is based upon the statistic I started calculating on each Top 20 listing for % of Top 20 matriculants going to the defined colleges: Ivies, Stanford, MIT, & SWAP's (Swarthmore, Williams, Amherst & Pomona). I do NOT intend to mean that placement at these schools is the only or right measure of placement quality.......its what I initially picked & I'm sticking with it.</p>

<p>I counted the number of matriculating students heading to the defined colleges out of the Top 20 lists, and divided that number by the estimated class size * number of years reported in the matriculation list. SO, keep in mind that this calculation does NOT represent ALL of the matriculants to those colleges, just those represented in the Top 20. If I had the data & ran the totals for all Ivy, S+M + SWAP matriculants, the percentages would be HIGHER than what is presented below. So, the %'s below are likely under-representations of the true percentage of all matriculants going to these colleges. The WSJ numbers I believe are more analagous to counting all matriculants, but they are looking at a different set of schools.</p>

<p>Remember also that I do NOT have data for some of the schools that WSJ reported, like St Albans, Sidwell Friends, and more. Although our college lists are not exactly compatible, I find it very odd that some very high-scoring schools on my list (e.g., those with >20% Ivy, S+M, and SWAP in the Top 20) cannot be found on the WSJ list, and their lower cut-off is 3% of their colleges. I'll be looking at that some more (I may try to replicate their college-base, but it will be for different years.....should theoretically be close though). Also, I'll do some more sorting later with the list below on demographics....that may prove interesting.</p>

<p>RANK High School/ State/ IVY, S+M, SWAP in Top 20/ REGION ( Yrs of Data ) Class Size
1 Collegiate NY 57% MidAlt ( 5 ) 52
2 Brearley NY 46% MidAlt ( 5 ) 44
3 St Pauls NH 42% NewEng ( 5 ) 133
4 Trinity NY 41% MidAlt ( 5 ) 104
5 Horace Mann NY 40% MidAlt ( 5 ) 160
6 Deerfield MA 38% NewEng ( 5 ) 165
7 Chapin NY 37% MidAlt ( 5 ) 41
7 Spence NY 37% MidAlt ( 5 ) 44
9 St Ann's NY 36% MidAlt ( 5 ) 75
10 National Cathedral DC 35% MidAlt ( 5 ) 75
11 Andover MA 30% NewEng ( 5 ) 315
12 College Prep CA 29% West ( 5 ) 80
12 Delbarton NJ 29% MidAlt ( 2 ) 101
14 Exeter NH 28% NewEng ( 3 ) 312
14 Harvard Westlake CA 28% West ( 1 ) 267
14 Hopkins CT 28% NewEng ( 1 ) 122
14 Pingry NJ 28% MidAlt ( 4 ) 124
18 Nobles MA 27% NewEng ( 5 ) 105
19 Germantown Friends PA 26% MidAlt ( 5 ) 87<br>
19 Lawrenceville NJ 26% MidAlt ( 6 ) 190
19 Milton MA 26% NewEng ( 3 ) 181
22 Commonwealth MA 24% NewEng ( 5 ) 36<br>
22 Groton MA 24% NewEng ( 5 ) 87<br>
24 Episcopal Acad PA 22% MidAlt ( 5 ) 115
25 Hotchkiss CT 21% MidAlt ( 4 ) 152
25 Thacher CA 21% West ( 6 ) 53<br>
27 Choate CT 20% NewEng ( 5 ) 201
27 Gilman MD 20% MidAlt ( 5 ) 99<br>
29 Georgetown Prep MD 19% MidAlt ( 3 ) 110 top 10 only
29 Pine Crest FL 19% South ( 6 ) 126
29 San Francisco Univ CA 19% West ( 5 ) 113
29 St Marks TX 19% SW ( 1 ) 80
33 Bishop's CA 18% West ( 1 ) 106
33 Holton Arms MD 18% MidAlt ( 1 ) 73
33 Menlo CA 18% West ( 5 ) 130
33 Thomas Jefferson HS * VA 18% MidAlt ( 4 ) 415
33 Tower Hill DE 18% MidAlt ( 3 ) 55
38 Agnes Irwin PA 17% MidAlt ( 5 ) 57
39 Haverford PA 16% MidAlt ( 5 ) 79
40 Hockaday TX 15% SW ( 1 ) 102
40 Shipley PA 15% MidAlt ( 5 ) 78
42 John Burroughs MO 14% Central ( 5 ) 97
42 Peddie NJ 14% MidAlt ( 5 ) 130
42 St Andrews DE 14% MidAlt ( 5 ) 67
42 Stuyvesant* NY 14% MidAlt ( 1 ) 800
42 Webb CA 14% West ( 12 ) 90
47 St Johns TX 13% SW ( 5 ) 126
48 Cate CA 12% West ( 4 ) 69<br>
48 Landon MD 12% MidAlt ( 5 ) 78<br>
48 Moses Brown RI 12% NewEng ( 4 ) 90<br>
51 Penn Charter PA 11% MidAlt ( 5 ) 101
51 Sagehill CA 11% West ( 1 ) 75<br>
51 Westminster GA 11% South ( 1 ) 189
54 Kent Denver CO 10% South ( 4 ) 100
54 Mary Inst & St Louis CD MO 10% Central ( 5 ) 143
54 Potomac VA 10% MidAlt ( 7 ) 75 top 10 only
57 American Sch in London UK 9% Intntnl ( 5 ) 91<br>
57 Poly Prep NY 9% MidAlt ( 4 ) 97<br>
59 Chestnut Hill PA 8% MidAlt ( 5 ) 45<br>
59 Hun NJ 8% MidAlt ( 1 ) 137
59 Park MD 8% MidAlt ( 10 ) 69<br>
62 Shady Side Acad PA 7% MidAlt ( 4 ) 135
63 Albuquerque Academy NM 6% SW ( 2 ) 160
63 Blair NJ 6% MidAlt ( 1 ) 127
63 Lake Ridge Academy OH 6% Central ( 7 ) 25
63 McDonogh MD 6% MidAlt ( 1 ) 131
63 University School Nashville TN 6% South ( 4 ) 77
63 Western Reserve OH 6% Central ( 1 ) 102
63 Westtown PA 6% MidAlt ( 5 ) 95
70 Holderness NH 5% NewEng ( 1 ) 64
70 Internation School Beijing CHINA PROC 5% Intntnl ( 3 ) 85
70 Nichols NY 5% MidAlt ( 1 ) 104
70 Pembroke Hill MO 5% Central ( 1 ) 93
70 Taipei American ROC 5% Intntnl ( 4 ) 201
75 Archer CA 4% West ( 5 ) 70
75 Cinci Country Day OH 4% Central ( 4 ) 72
75 Clayton HS * MO 4% Central ( 1 ) 189
75 Fountain Valley CO 4% Central ( 3 ) 59
75 Sanford DE 4% MidAlt ( 3 ) 58
75 Singapore American SG 4% Intntnl ( 4 ) 200
75 Stevenson CA 4% West ( 1 ) 119
82 Breck MN 3% Central ( 10 ) 86<br>
82 Bush WA 3% West ( 3 ) 58<br>
82 Chapel Hill CH MA 3% NewEng ( 4 ) 40<br>
82 Dana Hall MA 3% NewEng ( 1 ) 60<br>
82 Ethel Walker CT 3% NewEng ( 5 ) 36<br>
82 Oregon Episc OR 3% West ( 10 ) 62<br>
82 St Pauls (boys) MD 3% MidAlt ( 1 ) 77 top 10 only
82 University Prep WA 3% West ( 1 ) 59<br>
82 Woodberry Forest VA 3% MidAlt ( 1 ) 107
91 Berkshire MA 2% NewEng ( 1 ) 113
91 Conestoga* PA 2% MidAlt ( 1 ) 460
91 Durham Academy NC 2% South ( 4 ) 93<br>
91 Kentucky Country Day KY 2% South ( 5 ) 51<br>
91 Saint Andrews FL 2% South ( 5 ) 145
91 Severn MD 2% MidAlt ( 1 ) 82
91 St Sebastian's MA 2% NewEng ( 4 ) 61
98 Bolles FL 1% South ( 1 ) 190
98 Bullis MD 1% MidAlt ( 5 ) 78
98 Gould ME 1% NewEng ( 8 ) 55
98 St Christophers VA 1% MidAlt ( 5 ) 75
102 Ashville NC 0% South ( 5 ) 75
102 Brewster Academy NH 0% NewEng ( 1 ) 99
102 Chaminade CA 0% West ( 1 ) 265
102 Culver IN 0% Central ( 5 ) 206
102 Episcopal Dallas TX 0% SW ( 3 ) 96
102 Germantown Academy PA 0% MidAlt ( 1 ) 120
102 Lovett GA 0% South ( 3 ) 147
102 Loyola High CA 0% West ( 1 ) 291
102 McCallie TN 0% South ( 1 ) 145
102 Notre Dame Academy CA 0% West ( 1 ) 110
102 Portsmouth Abbey RI 0% NewEng ( 1 ) 80
102 Salisbury CT 0% NewEng ( 2 ) 76
102 Shattuck MN 0% Central ( 5 ) 50
102 St Andrew's GA 0% South ( 1 ) 28
102 St George's RI 0% NewEng ( 1 ) 74
102 St Johnsbury VT 0% NewEng ( 1 ) 225
102 St Paul's Episcopal AL 0% South ( 3 ) 130
102 Stanton College Prep* FL 0% South ( 20 ) 333
102 Thayer MA 0% NewEng ( 5 ) 53</p>

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<p>footnote.......WSJ limited their study to those schools producing >20 matriculants to their defined colleges and class sizes >50......I believe this cut out several on my list like Brearley w/ class size of 44 and several others w/ large enough class size but fewer than 20 (per year) heading to the defined colleges.</p>

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<p>PC-
You and WSJ are now very close! And, as suspected, the variation is centered on the NY schools (because Columbia was not included in the WSJ article). </p>

<p>I have a theory that I won't ask you to test (unless you have the spare time :) ) </p>

<p>I suspect the college decisions from these respective feeder high schools are very much focused on one particular selective college, as opposed to a well-rounded spread amongst several colleges. I bet the term "feeder" is more appropriate than we realize - as one HS will "feed" one college. </p>

<p>I don't know if this is an indication that certain colleges are upholding the tradition of accepting from certain high schools, or whether the results are more related to culture of the HS (with students having a culture of applying to one specific college). </p>

<p>Either way, I bet you'll find trending to indicate that students from these respective high schools are being channeled into a specific top college, not the Ivy League in general.</p>

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<p>momsdream-- Have a look at some of the previously posted Top 20 lists. Based upon those lists, focus on fewer selective colleges seems to occur most with HS's that place fewer matriculants in selective colleges. That is, the Deerfields tend to have a pretty even spread across most Ivies, but less-elite HS's may focus on just a few Ivies.</p>

<p>Here are some examples (Top 20 quality index from post 281 above):</p>

<p>Deerfield (38%): matriculants to all Ivies, highest is Brown (51 matriculants on Top 20 list) and lowest is Dartmouth (19)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234043&postcount=11%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234043&postcount=11&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Collegiate (57%): matriculants to all Ivies, highest to Harvard (26) and lowest to Dartmouth (4)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234036&postcount=9%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234036&postcount=9&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Gilman (20%): matriculants to 7 Ivies in Top 20, highest to Cornell (19) & lowest to Dartmouth (7)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234074&postcount=18%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234074&postcount=18&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Choate (20%): matriculants to 5 Ivies in Top 20, highest is Penn (44) and lowest is Columbia (25)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234027&postcount=7%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234027&postcount=7&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Moses Brown (12%): matriculants to 5 Ivies in Top 20, highest is Brown (18) and lowest is Yale (4)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1262554&postcount=203%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1262554&postcount=203&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Shady Side (7%): matriculants to 4 Ivies in Top 20, highest is Penn (15), lowest Harvard (6)
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1258260&postcount=184%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1258260&postcount=184&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Cinci Country Day (4%): matriculants to 1 Ivy in Top 20, Harvard
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234031&postcount=8%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showpost.php?p=1234031&postcount=8&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Pretty clear pattern. General conclusion is that there is an inverse relationship between a HS's focus on feeding to a particular college and the HS's overall placement selectivity.</p>

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<p>Here are some other statistics to ponder sorting the 120 schools and their Top 20 quality indexes presented in post 281,</p>

<p>A. Sorting by region shows the following averages:</p>

<p>Avg Top 20 quality index/Avg class size/N (number of HS’s)
CENTRAL: 5% / 102 /11
MIDATL: 17% / 124 / 45
NEW ENG: 13% / 116 / 24
SOUTH: 4% / 131 / 14
STHWEST: 11% / 113 / 5
WEST: 11% / 119 / 17
INTERNAT: 6% / 144 / 4</p>

<p>Note that MidAtlantic includes states from NY to Va.</p>

<p>No startling results here IMO. However, in looking at the New England Top 20 quality index list of 24, there appears to be a pronounced bifurcation of the data; that is, relatively few HS’s with quality indexes between 5% and 20%, whereas all other regions show a fairly even spread through their ranges.</p>

<p>Here are the New England data:
Top 20 quality index/School
42% St Pauls
38% Deerfield
30% Andover
28% Exeter
28% Hopkins
27% Nobles
26% Milton
24% Commonwealth
24% Groton
20% Choate
12% Moses Brown
5% Holderness
3% Chapel Hill CH
3% Dana Hall
3% Ethel Walker
2% Berkshire
2% St Sebastian's
1% Gould
0% Brewster Academy
0% Portsmouth Abbey
0% Salisbury
0% St George's
0% St Johnsbury
0% Thayer </p>

<p>B. Sorted by Class Size</p>

<p>Class Size: Top 20 quality index / N (number of schools)
<50: 16% / 10
51-75: 11% / 28
76-100: 10% / 27
101-125: 15% / 18
126-150: 10% / 14
151-200: 18% / 10</p>

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<p>This is interesting to me……seems that schools with class sizes of 101 to 125 and 151 to 200 apparently have a much better placement quality. (Of course this is not exactly a random sample.)</p>

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<p>Pops...you are the greatest entertainer.</p>

<p>Can you re-sort to present the top hs in each region? </p>

<p>New York is not in the New England region? </p>

<p>Here's a few more questions: </p>

<p>Why do the top colleges and universities LOVE New York City PRIVATE SCHOOL students so much? 7 of the top 10 feeder schools are private schools in NYC.</p>

<p>Where are Illinois and Chicago? Illionis state schools are not California state schools. why don't the top colleges and universities like Chicago students?</p>

<p>Another extraction: Top public in-state universities ARE getting the cream of the crop; ie CA, TX, NC, VA, WA, FLA, MI, PA--Illinois too apparently. Manhattanites clearly avoid their state universities.</p>

<p>Another shocker: Clayotn High School in saint Louis is the third highest feeder school in the nation--after Stuyvesant and TJ? Wow.</p>

<p>Thanks for the info. Did you do The Fieldston School of Riverdale? That's another NYC private school.</p>

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<p>Wow! </p>

<p>Can anyone verify the statistics that Stuyvesant HS only sent 7 kids to Harvard in 2005? Because, according to the wall street journal, they sent 21 kids in 2003 - that's a big decline. It's probably the screwy NYC public school system that is screwing them over. oh well...</p>

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<p>Some of the variation in Stuy admits at Harvard from year to year may be essentially random variation in the class's level of ability at the top end--or preference among college possibilities. I "know" online a few of those Stuy grads, and it may be that the bumper crop year was just an unusually good year in the Stuy class in which an unusually high number of the top students preferred to go to Harvard rather than somewhere else.</p>

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<p>Cheers-- here you go:</p>

<p>[And BTW, I included NY & NJ in MidAtl because thats' how Williams (the one college I found which grouped such data by region & state) apparently does it.]</p>

<p>Yes, the NYC schools are quite impressive. Most are relatively small & seem to specialize in feeding to the elites. I'll defer to someone else who knows 1st hand why they fair so well, but I'd guess, beside outstanding student selectivity & academics, that their established connections to the Ivies etc are very very solid & time-tested, via not only the HS's but also parents, alumni, etc.</p>

<p>Illinois schools?.....I looked, but I couldn't find many Chicago-area HS's that reported matriculation lists. Therefore, they are under-represented.</p>

<p>"Another shocker: Clayotn High School in saint Louis is the third highest feeder school in the nation--after Stuyvesant and TJ? Wow."......well, thats true for the publics that are reported on this thread, but there are only a handful of publics reported, so I wouldn't jump to that general conclusion with so little data.</p>

<p>& no, I didn't look for Fieldstone. There are plenty NOT covered on this thread, so please remember that the analyses & rankings are best viewed as relative comparisons within the set of HS's reported, not as absolutes amongst all HS's.</p>

<p>More on Catholics etc when I get a chance....perhaps next weekend.</p>

<p>OVERALL RANK / High School / STATE / IVY, S+M, SWAP index</p>

<p>CENTRAL
42 John Burroughs MO 14%
54 Mary Inst & St Louis CD MO 10%
63 Lake Ridge Academy OH 6%
63 Western Reserve OH 6%
70 Pembroke Hill MO 5%
75 Cinci Country Day OH 4%
75 Clayton HS * MO 4%
75 Fountain Valley CO 4%
82 Breck MN 3%
102 Culver IN 0%
102 Shattuck MN 0%</p>

<p>MIDATLANTIC
1 Collegiate NY 57%
2 Brearley NY 46%
4 Trinity NY 41%
5 Horace Mann NY 40%
7 Chapin NY 37%
7 Spence NY 37%
9 St Ann's NY 36%
10 National Cathedral DC 35%
12 Delbarton NJ 29%
14 Pingry NJ 28%
19 Germantown Friends PA 26%
19 Lawrenceville NJ 26%
24 Episcopal Acad PA 22%
25 Hotchkiss CT 21%
27 Gilman MD 20%
29 Georgetown Prep MD 19%
33 Holton Arms MD 18%
33 Thomas Jefferson HS * VA 18%
33 Tower Hill DE 18%
38 Agnes Irwin PA 17%
39 Haverford PA 16%
40 Shipley PA 15%
42 Peddie NJ 14%
42 St Andrews DE 14%
42 Stuyvesant* NY 14%
48 Landon MD 12%
51 Penn Charter PA 11%
54 Potomac VA 10%
57 Poly Prep NY 9%
59 Chestnut Hill PA 8%
59 Hun NJ 8%
59 Park MD 8%
62 Shady Side Acad PA 7%
63 Blair NJ 6%
63 McDonogh MD 6%
63 Westtown PA 6%
70 Nichols NY 5%
75 Sanford DE 4%
82 St Pauls (boys) MD 3%
82 Woodberry Forest VA 3%
91 Conestoga* PA 2%
91 Severn MD 2%
98 Bullis MD 1%
98 St Christophers VA 1%
102 Germantown Academy PA 0%</p>

<p>NEW ENGLAND
3 St Pauls NH 42%
6 Deerfield MA 38%
11 Andover MA 30%
14 Exeter NH 28%
14 Hopkins CT 28%
18 Nobles MA 27%
19 Milton MA 26%
22 Commonwealth MA 24%
22 Groton MA 24%
27 Choate CT 20%
48 Moses Brown RI 12%
70 Holderness NH 5%
82 Chapel Hill CH MA 3%
82 Dana Hall MA 3%
82 Ethel Walker CT 3%
91 Berkshire MA 2%
91 St Sebastian's MA 2%
98 Gould ME 1%
102 Brewster Academy NH 0%
102 Portsmouth Abbey RI 0%
102 Salisbury CT 0%
102 St George's RI 0%
102 St Johnsbury VT 0%
102 Thayer MA 0%</p>

<p>SOUTH
29 Pine Crest FL 19%
51 Westminster GA 11%
54 Kent Denver CO 10%
63 University School Nashville TN 6%
91 Durham Academy NC 2%
91 Kentucky Country Day KY 2%
91 Saint Andrews FL 2%
98 Bolles FL 1%
102 Ashville NC 0%
102 Lovett GA 0%
102 McCallie TN 0%
102 St Andrew's GA 0%
102 St Paul's Episcopal AL 0%
102 Stanton College Prep* FL 0%</p>

<p>SOUTHWEST
29 St Marks TX 19%
40 Hockaday TX 15%
47 St Johns TX 13%
63 Albuquerque Academy NM 6%
102 Episcopal Dallas TX 0%</p>

<p>WEST
12 College Prep CA 29%
14 Harvard Westlake CA 28%
25 Thacher CA 21%
29 San Francisco Univ CA 19%
33 Bishop's CA 18%
33 Menlo CA 18%
42 Webb CA 14%
48 Cate CA 12%
51 Sagehill CA 11%
75 Archer CA 4%
75 Stevenson CA 4%
82 Bush WA 3%
82 Oregon Episc OR 3%
82 University Prep WA 3%
102 Chaminade CA 0%
102 Loyola High CA 0%
102 Notre Dame Academy CA 0%</p>

<p>INTERNATIONAL
57 American Sch in London UK 9%
70 Internation School Beijing CHINA PROC 5%
70 Taipei American ROC 5%
75 Singapore American SG 4%</p>

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<p>here's one from Chicago-land....lots of local placement mixed with strong high-end colleges....if I read their web page correctly, IMSA is a public, residential school:
<a href="http://www.imsa.edu/about/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.imsa.edu/about/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>% Ivy, S+M, & SWAP in Top 20 = 6%
Class size = ~200
out of the Ivies, S+M & SWAP, notably a Feeder to MIT (one of the few I've seen with such high #'s)
SATs = 678V + 717M = 1395 combined</p>

<p>Rank / Matriculating College/ # of Matriculants during period
1 U Ill Urbana 243
2 U Ill @ Chicago 37
3 Northwestern 35
4 U Chicago 28
5 Washington U 19
6 CMU 14
6 MIT 14
8 Knox 13
8 USC 13
10 Purdue 11
11 Cornell 10
11 Ill Institute of Tech 10
13 Bradley 9
14 Stanford 8
15 Harvard 7
16 Amherst 6
16 Boston U 6
16 Carleton 6
16 Duke 6
16 Olin 6
16 George Washington 6
16 Ill Wesleyan 6
16 Iowa State 6
16 Lawrence 6
16 Rice 6
16 St Louis U 6
16 Truman State 6
16 U Iowa 6
16 Penn 6</p>

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<p>Similar to post 254 looking at HS's that Feed sizable amounts of their graduates to the Ivies etc, this post deals with HS's that Feed Catholic & Jesuit colleges.</p>

<p>METHODS....... I counted the number of matriculants per year to the Catholic & Jesuit colleges by HS, then assigned points to the HS based upon number of matriculants to each Cath/Jes college over a minimum threshold. As noted on post 254, this system is totally arbitrary, concocted my me, but it is helpful I think in discerning which HS's are the real players here (at least out of the 120 or so included on this thread).</p>

<p>So here's how I assigned points:
1 point for 3 or more matriculants to a single Cath/Jes college
1 additional point for 9 or more matriculants (super feeder to that college)
1 additional point for 18 or more matriculants (super-duper feeder to that college) </p>

<p>Here are the results of the ranking:
(40 of the 120 HS's posted a score of 1 or more)</p>

<p>RANK/ Cath&Jes SCORE/ High School/ State/ REGION/ Class Size/
1 7 Stuyvesant* NY MidAlt 800
2 6 Delbarton NJ MidAlt 101
2 6 Loyola High CA West 291
4 4 St Sebastian's MA NewEng 61
5 3 Andover MA NewEng 315
5 3 Exeter NH NewEng 312
5 3 Georgetown Prep MD MidAlt 110
5 3 Landon MD MidAlt 78
5 3 Lawrenceville NJ MidAlt 190
5 3 Notre Dame Academy CA West 110
5 3 Stevenson CA West 119
12 2 Choate CT NewEng 201
12 2 Conestoga* PA MidAlt 460
12 2 Episcopal Acad PA MidAlt 115
12 2 Harvard Westlake CA West 267
12 2 Hotchkiss CT MidAlt 152
12 2 Milton MA NewEng 181
12 2 Nobles MA NewEng 105
12 2 Peddie NJ MidAlt 130
12 2 Pingry NJ MidAlt 124
12 2 Shady Side Acad PA MidAlt 135
22 1 Chaminade CA West 265
22 1 Clayton HS * MO Central 189
22 1 Deerfield MA NewEng 165
22 1 Germantown Academy PA MidAlt 120
22 1 Gilman MD MidAlt 99
22 1 Groton MA NewEng 87
22 1 Holton Arms MD MidAlt 73
22 1 Hopkins CT NewEng 122
22 1 Horace Mann NY MidAlt 160
22 1 Hun NJ MidAlt 137
22 1 McCallie TN South 145
22 1 Nichols NY MidAlt 104
22 1 Portsmouth Abbey RI NewEng 80
22 1 Severn MD MidAlt 82
22 1 St George's RI NewEng 74
22 1 St Johns TX SW 126
22 1 St Pauls NH NewEng 133
22 1 Singapore American SG Intntnl 200
22 1 Thayer MA NewEng 53</p>

<p>I will lay-out the colleges associated with these HS's and feeder lists sorted by college in a near-future posts.</p>

<p>Some observations....Stuy, with its large size, is #1, with several Cath/Jes HS's (or at least they appear Cath/Jes by their names) ranking highly. Delbarton, a strong elite feeder, also feeds strong numbers of matriculants to the Cath & Jesuit colleges. Many HS's that feed the elites (Ivies, S+M, SWAP) also appear to feed Boston College and Georgetown, but not every elite feeder feeds Cath/Jes colleges also.</p>

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<ul>
<li>is a public HS
** is a super feeder for the astericked college(9 or more matriculants to the college per year)
**** is a super-duper feeder (18 or more)</li>
</ul>

<p>RANK/ High School/ State/<br>
1 Stuyvesant* NY Boston Col Georgetown** Fordham** St Johns U**
2 Delbarton NJ Boston Col Georgetown Holy Cross Notre Dame** Villanova<br>
2 Loyola High CA Boston Col Georgetown Loyola Marymount**** Loyola U Chicago<br>
4 St Sebastian's MA Boston Col** Holy Cross Fairfield<br>
5 Andover MA Boston Col Georgetown*<br>
5 Exeter NH Boston Col Georgetown<br>
5 Georgetown Prep MD Boston Col Georgetown Villanova<br>
5 Landon MD Georgetown<br>
5 Lawrenceville NJ Boston Col Georgetown<br>
5 Notre Dame Academy CA Loyola Marymount* Fairfield<br>
5 Stevenson CA Loyola Marymount<br>
12 Choate CT Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Conestoga* PA Villanova Cath U<br>
12 Episcopal Acad PA Georgetown Villanova<br>
12 Harvard Westlake CA Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Hotchkiss CT Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Milton MA Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Nobles MA Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Peddie NJ Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Pingry NJ Boston Col Georgetown<br>
12 Shady Side Acad PA Georgetown Villanova<br>
22 Chaminade CA Loyola Marymount<br>
22 Clayton HS * MO St Louis U<br>
22 Deerfield MA Georgetown<br>
22 Germantown Academy PA Villanova<br>
22 Gilman MD Boston Col<br>
22 Groton MA Georgetown<br>
22 Holton Arms MD Georgetown<br>
22 Hopkins CT Boston Col<br>
22 Horace Mann NY Georgetown<br>
22 Hun NJ Cath U
22 McCallie TN Boston Col<br>
22 Nichols NY Canisius<br>
22 Portsmouth Abbey RI Cath U<br>
22 Severn MD Loyoal College<br>
22 St George's RI Georgetown<br>
22 St Johns TX Georgetown<br>
22 St Pauls NH Georgetown<br>
22 Singapore American SG Fordham
22 Thayer MA Boston Col</p>

<p>Note that only Delbarton scores as a feeder to Notre Dame, a super-feeder no less.</p>

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<p>errata on the prior post.....</p>

<p>McCallie should be </p>

<p>22 McCallie TN Georgetown (not Boston C as reported above)</p>

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<p>Listed by Catholic/Jesuit college in descending order of # of HS’s feeding.</p>

<p>Format:
COLLEGE
High School / State / # matriculants per year</p>

<p>GEORGETOWN (25 HS’s feeding @ >= 3 matriculants/year)
Andover MA 11
Stuyvesant* NY 9
Exeter NH 9
Lawrenceville NJ 9
Delbarton NJ 8
Hotchkiss CT 8
Deerfield MA 8
Choate CT 7
Harvard Westlake CA 7
St Pauls NH 7
Georgetown Prep MD 6
McCallie TN 4
Milton MA 5
Nobles MA 4
Pingry NJ 4
Holton Arms MD 4
Horace Mann NY 4
St George's RI 4
Loyola High CA 3
Landon MD 3
Episcopal Acad PA 3
Peddie NJ 3
Shady Side Acad PA 3
Groton MA 3
St Johns TX 3</p>

<p>BOSTON COLLEGE (18 HS’s feeding @ >= 3 matriculants/year)
St Sebastian's MA 9
Delbarton NJ 7
Harvard Westlake CA 6
Nobles MA 6
Stuyvesant* NY 5
Andover MA 5
Georgetown Prep MD 5
Milton MA 5
Hopkins CT 5
Thayer MA 5
Loyola High CA 4
Choate CT 4
Peddie NJ 4
Exeter NH 3
Lawrenceville NJ 3
Hotchkiss CT 3
Pingry NJ 3
Gilman MD 3</p>

<p>VILLANOVA (6 HS’s feeding @ >= 3 matriculants/year)
Delbarton NJ 7
Georgetown Prep MD 3
Conestoga* PA 6
Episcopal Acad PA 3
Shady Side Acad PA 3
Germantown Academy PA 4</p>

<p>LOYOLA MARYMOUNT Ca (4 HS’s feeding)
Loyola High CA 24
Notre Dame Academy CA 12
Chaminade CA 7
Stevenson CA 3</p>

<p>CATHOLIC U (3 HS’s feeding)
Germantown Academy PA 4
Conestoga* PA 3
Portsmouth Abbey RI 3</p>

<p>FAIRFIELD (2 HS’s feeding)
St Sebastian's MA 4
Notre Dame Academy CA 4</p>

<p>FORDHAM (2 HS’s feeding)
Stuyvesant* NY 9
Singapore American SG 3</p>

<p>HOLY CROSS (2 HS’s feeding)
St Sebastian's MA 5
Delbarton NJ 3</p>

<p>CANISIUS (1 HS)
Nichols NY 5</p>

<p>LOYOLA COLLEGE Md (1 HS)
Severn MD 3</p>

<p>LOYOLA U Chicago (1 HS)
Loyola High CA 4</p>

<p>NOTRE DAME (1 HS)
Delbarton NJ 9</p>

<p>ST JOHNS U (1 HS)
Stuyvesant* NY 13</p>

<p>ST LOUIS U (1 HS)
Clayton HS * MO 5</p>

<p>OBSERVATIONS
Georgetown & Boston C feeders follow a similar pattern to the elites, perhaps a bit more Cath/Jesuit HS influence. Major local influence with Villanova & Loyola Marymount (& some other single HS feeders).</p>

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<p>Yes, it is. It is also (as the name implies) heavily focused on math and science, which partially explains the gigantic feed to UIUC...if you want to study engineering or computer science, which many IMSA grads do, UIUC offers Illinois residents a world-class program at a ridiculously low price compared to CMU, MIT, etc. The IMSA grads who look to the Ivies tend to come from the minority of the class that wants to move into the humanities etc.</p>

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<p>This next set of posts looks at distribution of matriculants from the 120-plus HS’s on this thread feeding at rates =>3 matriculants per year to the top 20 public universities as defined by the 2006 edition of US News.</p>

<p>Those universities are(in US News rank):
UCBerk
UVa
UCLA
UMich
UNC
Will&Mary
UCSD
UWisc
GaTech
UCIrv
UIUC
UCSB
UWash
PSU
UCDavis
UFla
UTAustin
UMd
UGa
UPitt</p>

<p>For your reference, here is a subset listing of HS’s (62 schools, or roughly half from this thread made this short list), sorted by HS state, that fed at least 3 matriculants/year to one of the top 20 publics, with in-state/out-of-state diffentiation. </p>

<p>High School / State / # of top 20 publics fed in-state / # fed out-of-state / total top 20 publics fed
Chaminade CA 6 0 6
Loyola High CA 6 0 6
Notre Dame Academy CA 5 0 5
College Prep CA 4 0 4
Harvard Westlake CA 3 1 4
Stevenson CA 4 0 4
Bishop's CA 3 0 3
Menlo CA 3 0 3
San Francisco Univ CA 3 0 3
Cate CA 1 0 1
Hotchkiss CT 0 1 1
National Cathedral DC 0 1 1
Bolles FL 1 2 3
Pine Crest FL 1 1 2
Stanton College Prep* FL 1 1 2
Saint Andrews FL 1 0 1
Westminster GA 2 2 4
Lovett GA 2 1 3
Illinois Math & Science Acad Ill 1 0 1
Culver IN 0 1 1
Kentucky Country Day KY 0 2 2
Deerfield MA 0 1 1
Groton MA 0 1 1
McDonogh MD 1 2 3
Georgetown Prep MD 0 1 1
Gilman MD 1 0 1
Landon MD 0 1 1
St Pauls (boys) MD 1 0 1
Park MD 1 0 1
Severn MD 1 0 1
Breck MN 0 1 1
Clayton HS * MO 0 1 1
Ashville NC 1 0 1
Durham Academy NC 1 0 1
Brewster Academy NH 0 1 1
St Pauls NH 0 1 1
Lawrenceville NJ 0 2 2
Stuyvesant* NY 0 3 3
Horace Mann NY 0 1 1
St Ann's NY 0 1 1
Conestoga* PA 2 3 5
Germantown Academy PA 0 1 1
Haverford PA 1 0 1
Penn Charter PA 1 0 1
Shady Side Acad PA 1 0 1
Shipley PA 1 0 1
Internation School Beijing CHINA PROC 0 2 2
Taipei American ROC 0 8 8
Singapore American SG 0 1 1
McCallie TN 0 2 2
Episcopal Dallas TX 1 3 4
Hockaday TX 1 0 1
St Johns TX 1 0 1
St Marks TX 1 0 1
Thomas Jefferson HS * VA 2 1 3
Woodberry Forest VA 2 1 3
Potomac VA 1 0 1
St Christophers VA 1 0 1
St Johnsbury VT 0 2 2
Bush WA 1 0 1
University Prep WA 1 0 1</p>

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<li>= public HS</li>
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<p>Here are the universities with total # of HS’s feeding at =>3 matriculants per year and a look at the in-state/out-of-state issue.</p>

<p>University / total # of HS’s feeding / # HS’s feeding based in-state
UCBerk 13 10
UCLA 10 9
UCSB 7 7
UMd 7 5
UCDavis 6 5
UVa 17 4
UCSD 5 4
UTAustin 5 4
PSU 4 4
UWash 6 3
UCIrv 4 3
UFla 3 3
UNC 9 2
UGa 7 2
GaTech 5 2
Will&Mary 4 2
UIUC 3 1
UPitt 1 1
UMich 8 0
UWisc 3 0</p>

<p>As you can see (and this is obvious), the California universities in particular are fed from California HS’s.</p>

<p>This table looks at the same list of top 20 publics, but sorted by # of HS’s feeding from out-of-state.</p>

<p>University / # HS’s feeding from out-of-state
UVa 13
UMich 8
UNC 7
UGa 5
UCBerk 3
GaTech 3
UWisc 3
UWash 3
Will&Mary 2
UIUC 2
UMd 2
UCLA 1
UCSD 1
UCIrv 1
UCDavis 1
UTAustin 1
UCSB 0
PSU 0
UFla 0
UPitt 0</p>

<p>Here, one can clearly see that UVa draws from the widest array of high schools outside of Virginia, followed by Michigan & UNC. Although I did not sort along regional lines for this analysis, note that UNC (& Georgia also for that matter) predominately draws from in-region HS’s, whereas Michigan has a draw from all regions. Another interesting tidbit is that U Washington’s out-of-state feeders are Asian-area international high schools.</p>

<p>[More slicing & dicing on Publics, and other top universities in future posts. I’m running out of steam though, so not much more I’m planning on squeezing out of my mega-tabbed spreadsheet.]</p>

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<p>These top 20 public universities had no HS feeders (=>3 matriculants per year from any listed HS) outside of their region or adjacent state:
UCLA
Will&Mary
GaTech
UCSB
PSU
UFla
UMd
UGa
UPitt</p>

<p>The following HS’s fed =>3 matriculants per year to the listed top 20 public universities outside the HS’s region or adjacent state:</p>

<p>High School/ State / Top 20 public university FED by HS outside region or adjacent state<br>
Taipei American ROC UCBerk UCLA UMich UCSD UCIrv UIUC UWash UCDavis<br>
Episcopal Dallas TX UCBerk UVa UMich<br>
McDonogh MD UNC UWisc<br>
Stuyvesant* NY UCBerk UMich<br>
Internation School Beijing CHINA PROC UWash UTAustin
St Johnsbury VT UNC UWash<br>
Harvard Westlake CA UMich<br>
Hotchkiss CT UVa<br>
Pine Crest FL UMich<br>
Westminster GA UVa<br>
Lovett GA UVa<br>
Deerfield MA UVa<br>
Groton MA UVa<br>
Brewster Academy NH UMich<br>
St Pauls NH UVa<br>
Lawrenceville NJ UNC<br>
Horace Mann NY UWisc<br>
St Ann's NY UMich<br>
Singapore American SG UWash</p>

<p>Taipei American HS, while not high in the elite feeder ranks, places many of their graduates in high-ranking public universities. Many of the other private HS's on this list are also elite feeders, routinely sending some matriculants to UVa & Michigan. Of note, St Johnsbury (Vermont) has a very unique top 20 public feeder profile, sending graduates to UNC & University of Washington.</p>

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<p>Its possible the students attending the Singapore and Taipei schools are in fact Americans whose parents are in the military or work for American businesses and are considered residents of the states where they are going to college.</p>

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<p>What is the point of this post? Am I missing something?</p>