<p>I asked this before, but it was in a thread actually pertaining to something else, so I thought it would be best to post in a new thread.</p>
<p>Are there any data on the number of (or percent that apply) Tulane grads admitted to T-14 law schools? I have found a source that states that the Tulane LSAT average is about 157. That is comparable to USC for example, but lower than Chicago or Stanford which are in the low to mid 160s. Of course averages are what they are, ...averages. It would be interesting to just how many Tulane students score north of 170, how many have a GPA of 3.8+, and for those who have both, what is the acceptance rate into top law schools. Some schools publish that data, others do not.</p>
<p>I have never seen anything published, but that doesn’t mean much. I wonder if either the Alumni office or the Tulane Law office might have that kind of info? I would think that maybe Tulane law tracks the Tulane class just to be able to compare.</p>
<p>idad - You know way more about this law school stuff than I do. How much difference do you think it makes to the top 20 Law schools if someone is from Tulane and has a 3.7 GPA and a 170 LSAT vs. that same level person from Stanford or Chicago or Vandy? Or is that essentially what you are trying to find out? Also, you say T-14, which strikes me as a very specific number. Is there something special about those 14 as compared to numbers 15-20?</p>
<p>If one has a 180 LSAT one is likely to go wherever one wants to go (as long as the GPA is at least a 3.7). The issue gets more important when one is in the middle of the pack for top schools in terms of GPA and LSAT scores. How does a 3.8 and LSAT of 1.72 from Tulane stack up against similar numbers from other schools in terms of admission likelihoods?</p>
<p>My fiance is finishing up law school and if I remember correctly the order is: the LSAT, then GPA, then letters of recommendation along with EC’s, ect. Only then do they care where you attended. This is the norm and some schools may put more weight on one thing or another. Most schools also look at the LSAT and GPA together and THEN look at everything else.</p>
<p>People often don’t realize that graduate schools often care nothing about your high school performance. If you ‘went Ivy’ for undergrad, but then weren’t successful in college (or were no longer able to do well on standardized tests and bombed the LSAT), then top law schools don’t want you. </p>
<p>Benetode: Yes, I understand your description to be the case, but what I am asking is one of those, “with all things being equal” type of questions. For example, at one LAC we visited they had data that showed a near 100% placement of students in their first choice law school and for students in the range I described above, a nearly 100% placement in top 7 schools.</p>
<p>Yeah, the only figure I found was “90% of Tulane University’s applicants who worked with the Pre-professional Advising Office gained admission to at least one law school.” </p>
<p>That doesn’t specify whether it was their first choice or not. A school would have to ask students to list and then rank the law schools that they are applying to before the school could know whether or not they gained admission to their #1 choice. I’m not sure if Tulane asks for that or even tries to keep track. A LAC is generally a better size school to ask that sort of question for every student applying to Law School. </p>
<p>Also, Tulane has so many kids applying to law school that there is no way that they could all even get into the top 7 schools. If there were only 30 or so kids applying to law schools then it would be a much greater possibility. Thus that top 7 placement number, while great, becomes more and more difficult as you increase the size of the undergraduate university. You have to factor in the size of the average law school entering class for each school and consider the undergraduate college diversity that the respective law school is trying to achieve. </p>
<p>I realize what you are trying to hone in on now, but unfortunately I highly doubt Tulane or many medium to large universities keep track.</p>
<p>The average LAC is about 1700 students. Assuming 10% apply to law schools, 22 would have to be accepted to each of the top 7 law schools. That would be great… but hard to do. So it’s still an impressive stat for the LAC. </p>
<p>On the other hand, Tulane has about 7000 students. Assuming 10% apply to law schools, 100 would have to be accepted to EACH top 7 school. That is a sure impossibility. </p>
<p>So again, while that’s a great stat to have, you can’t really compare it against schools with vastly different sizes. The restricting factor that hurts larger schools is the size of the average law school entering class. What I’m trying to get at with this long winded (typed) response, is that stats like that might be misleading (in a negative way) for larger schools…thus they don’t report/keep track of it. Hope this helps.</p>
I appreciate your thoughtfulness in your responses.</p>