<p>I need (off your mind) or list of the top majors ranking above 10 nationally in Columbia (Both SEAS and CC)</p>
<p>PS: They need to be science related majors. </p>
<p>Thank you!!</p>
<p>um...for science?</p>
<p>Both chem and bio are a lot more popular than physics.</p>
<p>engineering i believe bme/cheme/or(fe)/am are most popular. But this is by observation, not statistics.</p>
<p>Columbia has a superb geology program. Guessing, I'd put it in the top 5 or so.</p>
<p>You're asking in terms of research production / prestige among academics? Here:</p>
<p>Science -- Chem and Physics both used to be very top notch but aren't as esteemed as they used to be. Bio never was at that level.</p>
<p>Engineering -- None really are at the very upper echelon.</p>
<p>"Engineering -- None really are at the very upper echelon."</p>
<p>um financial engineering definitely is, whether that's real engineering is debatable, but the earth and environmental eng dept is doing very well, i think it already is pretty up there.</p>
<p>rest of the engineering disciplines are solid, but not top.</p>
<p>for grad programs bio, chem, phy, math are all ranked around ten, so you can't go wrong with any. undergrads get a lot of focus and many research opportunities.</p>
<p>I mean overall. I was interested when I found Columbia's medical school was top 10. That must bme should be really top then, eh?</p>
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<p>apples != oranges</p>
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<p>Yeah, I loved how many of premeds at Columbia who started BME had no clue what BME even was. It's sort of "Mechanical Engineering with an emphasis on the human body."</p>
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<p>Yeah, FE is not engineering. Also, so few schools have it, and CU's program is so new, that it's hard to say Columbia has world-class FE.</p>
<p>No one answers my question straight!! Omg!! Come on plz!</p>
<p>^because no such ranking exists. you can't really put specific undergrad depts against one another, plus an undergrad education has more to do with what else they teach you apart from degree specific stuff. You'll learn similar material in a similar fashion no matter where you go, dept strength matters more for grad school. so for getting an undergrad education columbia is 'top ten'. the depts are all well supported and strong, and that's all that needs to be said. </p>
<p>Your question is ridculous, a metric hardly exists, usnews makes up rankings for undergrad engineering disciplines, but they're rather inaccurate, and to answer your question (as only US news can) columbia doesn't feature in the top ten engineering programs in most things. other than usnews no other metric exists, so stop demanding what you can't have, you'll realize the truth in what i'm saying once you get to college and actually wonder how you are being and how you want to be educated.</p>
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I suggest improving your apparently poor reading comprehension skills. Geology is most certainly a science, and Columbia certainly excels in it (#4 according to the NRC). Chemistry is also ranked in the top ten.</p>
<p>AshwinSundar, the Indian obsession with rankings rears its head. As confidentialcoll puts it, at undergrad level overall strength of univ more important since what you learn apart from and along with major is going to influence who you are, what you become, what you will be interested in learning later, etc. The undergrad physics at U No Name U won't be much different from that at Brown or Yale or Columbia, may make a difference only at top tech schools like MIT.</p>
<p>Choose a school based on overall strength, most likely you will change majors. That said, Columbia is excellent in most things and you won't go wrong. The differences between one and 7 and 4 and 11 are minute and they should not preoccupy you. Right now, you should preoccupy yourself with essays and getting in.</p>
<p>The Financial Engr at master's level was ranked second, I believe, behind Berkeley.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot Ramaswami. That was well put. Yes, after thinking more about it, there will be no difference in engineering between Yale and Columbia, although there would be if Columbia were compared with MIT.
Thanks again Ramawsami.
As for confidentialcoll, yes, I am well aware that rankings can be innacurate, but rankings are significant. There is a difference in studying engineering in . . . UC Riverside than at Caltech. Rankings are important, and I am only asking for them. I never said I am judging a school based only on rankings. </p>
<p>As for warblersrule86 :
I have nothing to say to you. Seriously, I think it's a waste of time. I will just tell you this: It doesn't matter if my sentences are gramatically incorrect or not when I am posting messages here. No one will judge me, nor will anyone care. No oen is affected. Making these errors in college essays significantly matter. Same in english tests and SAT tests. It matters there.
So, I advise you to shut up and get out of this thread, or write helpful messages
Good day to you.</p>
<p>AshwinSundar, I wasn't referring to grammar. I meant that posters DID answer your question.</p>
<p>If you're only interested in engineering, why didn't you say so? :rolleyes:</p>
<p>ashwinSundar, come on come on, don't have to attack warbler. You are correct, we write fast in these posts and misspell etc, it's OK. I agree with you , rankings do matter, for jobs and grad school etc your undergrad institution will matter in the sense the top employers etc will expect the top 10 schools to have done the screening for them. In other words, getting in to a high ranked institution is a big leg up on life, employment, marriage, self concept etc.</p>
<p>My S applied to the top 15 last year: his school counselor was shocked, talked endlessly about match and his short reply? Yes, I have matched my needs and I want to be with the best kids as defined by the top 15 schools in the most widely read rankings paper US News. Absolutely nothing wrong. Acceptance into a top school is a signaling behavior. Americans talk about match largely in sense of rural/urban, frats, social life, beauty of campus and less in terms of particular programs altho that too exists. match in terms of wanting to be with the highest SAT scores students, or the ones with best essays and ECs who have been selected for this by the top schools is also a kind of match.</p>
<p>I gather you are in high school, right? Senior? Where are you applying? You can PM me if you want.</p>
<p>btw yale engineering...not exactly good. there probably would be a difference between that and cu engineering.</p>
<p>Before I answer, Ramaswami, tell me what you think. tee-hee. I am just curious of your response. "^^</p>
<p>ashwinSundar, what I think about what, the previous post re Yale? I will tell you but what has my response got to do with my innocent query as to whether you are a HS senior? You really don't have to tell me but your background may help me help you better.</p>
<p>I presume cu refers to columbia engineering. In the sense of rankings, Columbia does much better than Yale in engineering. So, if you really want to be an engineer and you only had those 2 choices, I would take Columbia. But since most Ivy engineering students gravitate to consultancy and banking Yale may give you an edge since it is part of the HYP aura. Columbia's new undergrad program in financial engr may offer an edge, too soon to tell. Columbia students can also intern on Fridays at area banks etc, in that sense Columbia may offer an edge, really I would think they are equal in banking/consultancy opportunities.</p>
<p>I am told Yale is good at biomed and is beefing up the program. The Ivies almost have this attitude that engineering should be a graduate degree like medicine and hence they offer this engineering sciences degree which is the 21st cent version of the old liberal arts degree. I rather think it is a good idea, a broad base, time to mature and decide if one wants to be an engineer, and if so which engineering. In that sense Yale is better since there are fewer pressures to specialize. </p>
<p>Engineering can be taught to a bright student. Yale would give you a better stamp of approval if you want to work for Google, Microsoft etc. If you want to work for Boeing, go to Purdue or UW Wisconsin. The traditional engineering giants prefer midwest schools because the farm kids have a work ethic and don't want the corner office right away. Hope this helps.</p>
<p>Yes it does!! I think I didn't phrase my question right. I meant to ask if you think I am a senior or not.
Anyway, no, I am not a senior, but an advanced Sophomore. I am indian (tamilian/Bhramin) and I take two APs this year. I have interesting ECs that relate to Biology and Ecology, and I just took the PSAT yesterday. "^^
My councellor says that normaly people research on colleges during Junior year. I thouhgt of doing it now because I know I will be very busy during junior yr.
So here I am, researching colleges that appeal to my interest, as I have time now (I still have lots of work to do now "^^).</p>
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<p>Says who? 2 of my suitemates this year worked for google over the summer and both are being flown to CA this coming month, all expenses paid, for final round interviews. You have no reason to say yale eng>cu eng; it is a statement without backing.</p>
<p>Also, try getting a job at microsoft, google, ANYWHERE, without an ABET accredited degree. You'll see that you won't get too many job offers in the engineering world.</p>
<p>Yale eng is special in that you don't have to graduate with abet accreditation. In fact, graduating WITH the accreditation in the harder disciplines (cheme, biomed) is REALLY HARD (check the class loads, it's 6 classes almost every semester) </p>
<p>First off tho, to the OP: you're a sophmore. You posted here awhile ago obsessing about rankings when you really most likely dont understand what it is engineers do! Research that first, take physics, and then come back and tell us if you think engineering is really up your alley. it sounds like you want to go to medschool. If that is the case, engineering, especially biomed, may not be the way to go for you.</p>