<p>We thought the honors program at Vermont was worth a look but I remember the merit money for OOS being minimal especially in comparison to the very high OOS tuition. </p>
<p>UVA is decent for those with low income in or out of state. Merit to a select few.</p>
<p>MTNest -- UPitt is definitely on my daughter's list and we're in-state. They have a Pharmacy school and my daughter is considering studying Pharmacy. Any "ballpark" range that you know about for admission to honors and scholarship money? Thanks!</p>
<p>University of Georgia gives great scholarships. The Charter Scholarship changes out of state to in state tuition and gives an extra $1000. They give from 200-250 of those each year. They have other great, more prestigious awards as well. My daughter accepted the Charter and a place in their Honors Program ( amazing ) for this fall. She is really excited. Athens is an awesome college town too. I think UGA is a hidden gem in many ways. Look at their site detailing all the awards.</p>
<p>"For highly desirable schools like UMIch, UCs, UVA, UNCCH, getting merit money is so competitive that you truly have to have HPY stats or something else these colleges really want."</p>
<p>I completely agree with this as far as the full ride scholarships that these schools offer to OOS students. However, for UM, the Shipman for non-LSA and Engineering students is not as competitive. And they have the Michigan Tradition (10k/yr for underrepresented states and low SES) and LSA Deans (5-20k/yr) which are not quite at the same level. </p>
<p>For the UCs, I might even take it one step further (for UCB at least), as I'm not convinced that they even offer a pure merit scholarship for OOS students. Seems like the Cal Bears, Regents and Chancellors all have a need factor for OOS. Just wondering what other folks think about this.</p>
<p>what is michigan's motive for awarding the shipman? do they just want more students with peak stats? that seems a little simplistic to me.</p>
<p>Woodpost, You mean Clemson, right? Can you post your stat and tell us if they gave you anything more than OOS tuition? Did you take the offer?</p>
<p>Auburn looks like they have some pretty decent OOS offers. It appears that if you have a 34 on the ACT, you potentially quality for the Presidential scholarship. There is also the Heritage scholarship which makes it the equivilant of in-state tuition. Anyone aware of the likelyhood of receiving the Presidential scholarship?</p>
<p>Krug--Both Clemson and USC have good merit aid programs for out-of-state sutdents.</p>
<p>Advice please-I know that too get into pitt honors you need 1400+ SAT's and to be in the top 5% of your class. I think it's like a strict cutoff, but I'm not positive.</p>
<p>Thanks turtlegurlie91 --- We'll keep UPitt on the list as my daughter meets this criteria!</p>
<p>Washington University in St Louis and Rice University give out bucketloads</p>
<p>Neither of those schools are publics. They are also very difficult to get into. :) One look at the WashU board & you'll see how many applicants with krug's stats were waitlisted.</p>
<p>USC is also a private.</p>
<p>Wash U is private and is really NOT generous with merit money when you consider the overall cost. A $6-8K award against the almost $50K overall annual cost is a drop in the bucket and, unless something has changed in the last four years, they also are NOT need blind in their admissions.</p>
<p>I believe the poster was referring to U South Carolina which has a number of name scholarships that also come with in-state tuition remission. My about to be third year D was awarded a McKissick scholarship worth 2K a year PLUS in-state tuition. It made the cost less than sending her to an in-state school. They also award departmental scholarships, most often AFTER you have accepted admission rather than using them as additional bait. My D got a call while at HS commencement practice informing her that they were also giving her an additional $6k departmental award.</p>
<p>It's a great school and an up and comer. I would highly recommend looking into it.</p>
<p>"what is michigan's motive for awarding the shipman? do they just want more students with peak stats? that seems a little simplistic to me."</p>
<p>The same as any of the other schools (private or public) that offer large merit scholarships, to get top students. Simple or simplistic, there are many kids that qualify for little or no need based FA and can't afford the need only schools, or they may be planning on expensive professional school in the future (like med or architecture), or they may like other aspects of the school and the perks that are often offered with the scholarship.</p>
<p>well i mean they give bucketloads compared to many other similar caliber schools.
and i do apologize for listing them. i kinda didnt pick up on the "public" part.</p>
<p>in that case, i've had a very good experience w/ maryland (college park). if you have outside money that's supposed to be directed only at tuition, then any money they give you they'll make be diverted elsewhere. like i got a $8500/yr thing from there, which is tuition. but tuition was also covered by my dad's job benefits (half), and then by various outside scholarships. so then maryland just made their money go to food/board/etc, so in the end i didnt really have to pay anything =D</p>
<p>University</a> of Maryland - Scholarships</p>
<p>of course, my experiences are in-state, so i guess they wont be as generous w/ out of state, but ive had loads of friends who get thrown a couple thousand/yr for no definable reason beyond "academic excellence in hs," despite actually slacking off terribly.</p>
<p>and in washu's defense, if you bug them (as i did), theyll fork over a couple thousand (mine was $10000), even if its quite clear your demostrated need has been met (my dads work paid half tuition, and our "need" was less than that). and their scholarships usually pay for at least half tuition, which is closer to $18000 than $8000.</p>
<p>Just returned from a visit to SUNY Stony Brook with my daughter. I thought the school was great! It's a modern but not ugly campus. My daughter loved the idea that the #1 major is biology....she loves science. She also loved the idea that it is a major research university with a medical school and a dental school. I liked that the cost is great for OOS. She'll definitely apply and maybe get accepted into the WISE program which, as described, seems to be a good match for her. The school is academically competitive especially for a large public school...43 % acceptance rate and average SAT of 1240.....much higher for honors and other special programs. </p>
<p>It was a great visit and definitely high on the list.....as a parent and major contributor to my daughters' educational expenses -- I love the idea of a great research and reasonably priced public universities! </p>
<p>The search and visits continue but Stony Brook seems like a great school!!</p>
<p>We too just visited MSU for their honors programs and scholarship opportunities, and as mentioned earlier in this thread, it is quite impressive. My son's goal is to get a full merit based scholarship, and MSU offers 15 full rides, tuition, room and board, and a stipend.</p>
<p>He is going into engineering. He has a 36 ACT, 1600 SAT (1600 scale), 2310 SAT (2400 Scale), 3.8 GPA unweighted, 5.110 GPa Weighted, Top 1% of his class.</p>
<p>Any other schools with higher engineering rankings than MSU that offers great merit scholarship opportunities?</p>
<p>Thanks!!!</p>
<p>With those stats, he will be in the running for merit at pretty much any school that offers merit! Remember that ivies do not offer merit. Focus on great engineering schools ... there are plenty. Do keep in mind that being qualified for merit scholarships & actually receiving them are two different things. Make sure to apply to several reaches/matches/safeties. Do a search on the forum for engineering scholarships.</p>
<p>Texas Tech offers several levels to out of state students. One nice thing is the 5 year full ride for National Merit Finalists - 4 years undergraduate and 1 year graduate. They also offer similar 5 year awards at a lower monetary value to those who weren't quite NM Finalists. I HIGHLY recommend the school for how they treat scholars.</p>
<p>Thanks for that advice! I'll definitely look into Texas Tech and also check the engineering thread, if I can find it.</p>