<p>* She stated that 60% of the incoming freshman will receive 40K out of the 41K tuition bill. Thats a lot of money to give to so many people. Mean time I must be at their threshold and Yes we got a big fat $0 from them. Again, this is my gripe why do some many people get so much and then others get nothing.** When I hear something like that and I walk down the campus all I can think of is the few thousand kids that I’m not helping to educate**. *</p>
<p>My sister pays full freight at Vandy (and at another pricey private)…however, she knows that her payments aren’t paying for other kids. Usually privates actually cost MORE than what they’re charging full-freight students. Vandy’s real cost per student is probably higher than the actual tuition. </p>
<p>And…grants for low income students come from endowments. </p>
<p>Vandy’s numbers:
Full-time freshman enrollment: 1,600
Number who were offered aid: 806
Number who had full need met: 806
Average percent of need met: 100%
Average financial aid package: $42,397
Average need-based loan: $2,575
Average need-based scholarship or grant award: $37,174</p>
<p>*State universities on the other hand are basically subsidized for the rich. Everyone pays the same amount to attend, and because everyone’s taxes help foot the bill, *</p>
<p>This isn’t really true because “everyone” isn’t paying the same amount of taxes. The higher income people pay much higher taxes…and some lower income people pay hardly any (and it could be argued that the little taxes they do pay for gets “reimbursed” to them in the form of state (or fed) grants).</p>
<p>rentof2; Don’t even get me started with taxes. I live on long island where we have a huge illegal immigrant issue. These people come to this country, are having babies that are now Americans and they do not contribute to the tax basis. So now we have to pay to educate their children, give them welfare, and when they are ready for college we tax payers are footing the bill. So now when my taxes have gone up 100% in ten years, and I pay full price for any college that my children select I can say, "Hey this is what I get to do for everyone else in society who are breaking the law or too irresponsible to pay their own debts because they have over extended themselves.</p>
<p>Of course illegal immigrants pay taxes. In fact, it could be argued they pay taxes for services they never receive.</p>
<p>What do you think happens to the FICA that gets withheld from the paychecks of illegal immigrants on payrolls? Do you think the landlords of illegal immigrants can skip out on property taxes? (Hence, they’re indirectly paying them.) Do you think illegal immigrants get to ignore sales taxes? Plenty of illegal immigrants file income taxes, too - easy way to get busted is to get the IRS after you. IRS doesn’t care who files, they just want their cut.</p>
<p>You’re an illegal immigrant to this country, too, unless you’re a Native American. We’re all illegal immigrants who stole this land from its rightful owners at gunpoint and via genocide. Fine, deport all the illegal immigrants - you first on that boat back to Europe.</p>
<p>*Yes its grant only, no loans for Vandy. Thats why I thought that maybe, just maybe we would get something thrown our way. But nope that didn’t happen. Oh well, what can you do. *</p>
<p>I realize that Vandy is a CSS school, but I’m curious…what is your FAFSA EFC?</p>
<p>to be honest that 10 percent rule is no different with than regular fin aid. My S was accepted to Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>Why do you think that? Regular FA does not use a 10% rule. Regular FA uses about a 22-25% rule (except for those with lowish/Pell-qualifying incomes).</p>
<p>Dungareedoll, my taxes have increased greatly too over the last 10 years, but it’s because we’re making more money. I, also, would like to see immigrants to this country become better educated. I’m always a little befuddled by negative attitudes towards immigration being directed at the immigrants themselves. We have a porous border and have always benefited from the cheap labor of undocumented laborers. We have in the past not directed immigration control efforts at the citizen-employers who also have benefited from this cheap labor. If people are serious about immigration control they should first stop all of us and our affluent neighbors from enjoying cheaper produce, cheaper hotel rooms, cheaper restaurants, cheaper gardeners and babysitters. If the work wasn’t here, immigrants wouldn’t come. (In fact, in this bad economy it has slowed considerably, with some undocumented workers even returning home. This bad economy has been good news, I guess, for those that blame the immigrants.) A better immigration control effort would probably entail seeing employers of undocumented workers being hauled off in INS vans and put in jail.</p>
<p>But back to your original question, some colleges are just going to cost more. If a family with less money is in a better situation at a few colleges with certain financial aid policies, the opposite is true at the vast majority of schools and for the vast majority of students. Surely that is some consolation if the issue is access to higher ed for the well-heeled.</p>
<p>polarscribe; the majority of the illegals here on long island aren’t paying fica because they don’t work on the books because they aren’t legal. Don’t even go there that I’m an illegal when I was born in this country, have worked on the books since I was 14 and paid my taxes. Lets not go back to the whole Native American Indian thing because thats just grasping at straws. That happened a few hundred years ago. Thats humanity, be it right or wrong. Lets speak in the present please.</p>
<p>mom: I’m didn’t mean literally its 10%, sorry, I meant that theres a cut off no matter which method of aid you are going to recieve.</p>
<p>rent: The taxes I’m speaking of are my real estate taxes. And no I’m not making more money. As a matter of fact my income has gone down.
I agree that immigrantion controls need to be tighter but here on long island our immigrant population rose 24% in the last ten years. So perhaps in other parts of the country they numbers are decreasing but not here.</p>