Top undergraduate Business Admin or Bus/Econ programs in california

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<p>Can anyone give me a ranking of the top 10 undergraduate programs of business administration including counting Business/Economics programs in California. This includes all private schools, Cal states, and UC schools in the rankings. THanks.
Its been hard finding a ranking that consists of all the schools in california. Thanks</p>

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<p>1) Stanford
2) Berk
3) UCLA
4) USC
5-10 = unemployment</p>

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<p>^he is nutty</p>

<p>Stanford
UCB, Claremont Mckenna
UCLA, USC (different ops at both schools)
you can clump UCSD, UCSB, UCI and UCD all together, UCI may lead the way in a few years with their new undergrad biz and the prosperity in the region with plenty of management and finance jobs available for those seeking. UCSD is starting to get a little attention from Mckinsey, local mutual funds, etc
Cal Poly SLO, SDSU, UCR, Perpperdine, LMU, SJSU
CSUF, CSULB (recruiters at compared to the previous level are near the same, but the above level has recruitment from accenture, cisco, hp, eli lilly, mattel, etc, while this level does not, but differences are marginal)
CSUN</p>

<p>Occidental may belong in there, but i have never really looked at this school</p>

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<p>It's true. I'm crazy.</p>

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<p>UCLA has business economics, economics, and international economics, generally, which one has the best employment opportunities for investment companies?</p>

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<p>BizEcon #1</p>

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<p>Clare-Mckenna is nowhere near UCB's Haas, it is the 3rd best undgergrad b-school in the nation.</p>

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<p>Claremont Mckenna sends students to
1. Goldman
2. Mckinsey
3. Bain
4. BCG
5. Merrill Lynch
6. UBS
7. JPMorgan
8. Morgan Stanley
9. Cornerstone
10. Monitor
11. Cornerstone
12. A number of middle market investment banks
13. All big 4 CPA firms
14. Analysis Group
15. Semler Brossy
15. Lazard
16. WedBush
17. ZS Associates
18. Hang Seng Bank
19. Deustche
20. Credit Suisse
21. Traders at Countrywide
22. Citigroup
23. Barclays
24. Compass
25. KKR
26. Banc of America Securities
27. Bear Sterns
28. Onyx Capital</p>

<p>AND now I am getting tired, so here you go <a href="http://csc.claremontmckenna.edu/employers/Firms%20Recruiting%20CMC%20Students.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://csc.claremontmckenna.edu/employers/Firms%20Recruiting%20CMC%20Students.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>And that is (or so I have been told by school officials) not complete</p>

<p>Alumni are very proactive in recruiting their own. Students frequently travel to NYC to meet with alumni at various firms</p>

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<ol>
<li>standford econ</li>
<li>ucb haas</li>
<li>usc marshall</li>
<li>ucla bus-econ</li>
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<p>Caltech has a Business Economics &
Management program and Pomona is a top school, but I'm not sure where they stand among these 4 in terms of business education.</p>

<p>And I agree with TheWhartonSchool..Clare-mckenna is no where near ucb or any of the other schools mentioned above.</p>

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<p>Those stats at CMC is skewed because I believe most of the job offers for elite firms came from only students at Pomona College.</p>

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<p>Where does UCB Econ rank?</p>

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<a href="http://econ.claremontmckenna.edu/majors/econ-acct%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://econ.claremontmckenna.edu/majors/econ-acct&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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<p>I'm not really so sure about that. I think it depends on what you're looking for. Claremont McKenna is not an undergrad business school; it's a liberal arts college. And as such, it is not ranked against business schools like Haas or Wharton. Now I don't have the statistics on Haas, but CMC is certainly "near" Berkeley as a whole in terms of the strength of the student body (the median SAT score is actually about 120 points higher at CMC). </p>

<p>Even though it has an emphasis on business, CMC still has the advantages of a liberal arts college. It has small class sizes, class discussions, professors who know who you are (and can write a recommendation for you). It also has a strong career center that goes out of its way to hook students up with internships and jobs. The school actually gives out thousands of dollars in stipends every year so students can afford to do an unpaid internship.</p>

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<p>CMC has both accounting, economics, financial economics, etc</p>

<p>Stats are for CMC ONLY, they are not intermixed with any other colleges from the Claremont consortium. If you care to take a look, you will notice that CMC career center is somewhat independent from Pomona's. I say somewhat because they focus only on their distinct college, have separate staff, but I am sure that they can share resources</p>

<p>You could at least add the phrase "I think" before your statements if you don't have the experience to answer, or the purpose you had in mind, answer correctly.</p>

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<p>People have listed some interesting comments here.</p>

<p>Let's discuss a few things:</p>

<p>First, yes Claremont McKenna is a great school, but your list of how many people go to the top firms is unfair since you are listing grad students and not just undergrad students--also you are not giving numbers of students going to each company--just that at least one went there. Totally bogus statistics as a result.</p>

<p>On the positive side, let's discuss Claremont McKenna for a moment. Their one professor, Peter Drucker, is without a doubt one of the top 5 business professors in the country. He has been absolutely ground-breaking in discussing the effect of changes in "people skills" on company effectiveness--something very few professors in the country will tackle when doing business research statistics. </p>

<p>Now back to the comments about top programs.</p>

<p>I pretty much believe the ratings to be (1) Stanford, (2) Berkeley, (3) Pomona (we're talking undergrad here), (4) USC, (5) UCSD (6) Caltech, (7)UCLA and UCSB and then down from there. I'm a graduate of UCLA's Anderson school, so it pains me to put USC above UCLA--but at the undergraduate level there's no comparison really.</p>

<p>Also, besides the schools listed by southpasadena, another school to be included should be Cal State San Bernardino. Their entrepreneurship program actually was ranked as 4th best in the country just a year or two ago by USNW--and the only reason it went down (temporarily) was because the key professors took a year or two off to start their own company that studies venture capitalism trends (and makes money from this). I happen to know that these guys (one of whom used to teach at USC, the other at UCI)--have now returned to the school.</p>

<p>Also, it should be noted that UCSD has no undergraduate business program, but an economics program that has two recent Economics Nobel prize winners--both of whom teach and don't just do research like at most public universities.</p>

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<p>While some of the firms southpasadena lists are the "Big Boys" when it comes to Venture Capitalists nationwide and worldwide, not one of the firms he listed was among the 22 largest VC firms in California last year.</p>

<p>So this means to me that he is only looking at Claremont McKenna students who are going out-of-state for careers in VC or IB work. The fact that many other schools prefer to "play" in California in the VC/IB world seems to be entirely overlooked.</p>

<p>I'd be more interested in knowing who is going to work for the California top VC firms. These would be Draper Fisher Jurvetson, Kleiner Perkins Caulfield & Byers, US Venture Partners, Accel Partners, Band of Angels, Redpoint Ventures, Sanderling Ventures, Sequoia Capital, Mayfield Fund, Morgenthaler Ventures, Benchmark Capital, DCM Dell Capital Management, Enterprise Partners Venture Capital, Intel Capital, Menlo Ventures, Mohr Davidow Ventures, Norwest Venture Partners, Storm Ventures, Versant Ventures, DFJ Frontier, or Lightspeed Venture Partners.</p>

<p>Also, the list seems to be quite dated. While it lists four top firms (Goldman Saks, Merrill Lynch, KKR (Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co., and Bain (Bain Capital Group), it leaves out the other current top players in the VC world:</p>

<p>Blackstone Group
Carlyle Group
Apollo Managment
Texas Pacific Group
Thomas H. Lee Partners, and
Cerberus Capital Management (these guys just did the Chrysler deal).</p>

<p>It's almost like the Claremont McKenna statistics looked only at placements prior to 2001--not very persuasive for convincing me that its recent grads are going into VC or IB firms.</p>

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First, yes Claremont McKenna is a great school, but your list of how many people go to the top firms is unfair since you are listing grad students and not just undergrad students

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<p>The graduate school at CMC is technically a seperate entity, otherwise known as Claremont Graduate University (CGU). They have their own employment statistics and on the average, do not place as well as their undergraduate counterparts (exception being the masters in financial engineering). </p>

<p>Claremont does not place heavily in VC, I doubt any school can name a significant number of graduates in any specific year entering VC (undegrad)</p>

<p>What I listed where investment banks (bulge and middle market), management/strategy consulting groups, and accounting firms (few lay outside of these subsets) These are usually considered desirable industries to work in for the money and prestige, so i felt it was noteworthy to point these companies out. They place heavily in the LA offices for both Goldman and UBS. They place heavily in the LA offices for management consulting firms. </p>

<p>Numbers are not listed because they do not give a percentage/company, rather they give a percentage/industry, but this is only for their accounting program. I have not been able to find percentages for economics. Financial economics lists a portion of their students intern/full time employer statistics. CMC has provided a list for 2005 (maybe 2006) for companies employing their grads in that year, so they are not prior 2001. Possibly you are looking at different statistics. </p>

<p>I placed CMC with UCB because they have access to the same job opps. Can you list the number of hires for your previous listed companies that come from UCB.</p>

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<p>It would be unfair to consider the majority of well known VC firms first off. If you consider the bios of most of the staff at these companies, they have significant experience and the undegrad schools range from Toledo to Harvard. I can find a hefty number of UCSB students that are currently working in VC and PE firms, but that doesnt make it a desirable school when looking at overall career statistics for students exiting with only their undergraduate degree and minimal work experience.</p>

<p>Take a look at CMG and compare the career statistics (employers) and you will see the considerable difference and realize that they are in fact two different schools. Even with the new dean, they will be 'mainly' focusing in regional growth in the inland empire (an area he believes has been untapped and ready to surge).</p>

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<p>This represents 2006-2007 school year</p>

<p>Investment Banking Night – Presenters
• Ameriprise Financial Services
• Barrington Associates
• The Capital Group
• CIBC World Markets Corporation
• Citigroup Global Banking Division
• Credit Suisse
• Houlihan, Lokey, Howard & Zukin
• Imperial Capital
• Merrill Lynch
• Payden & Rygel
• Piper Jaffray & Co.
• Prager, Sealy & Co., LLC
• Rabobank, N.A.
• Relational Investors LLC
• Strategic Financial Group
• Susquehanna International Group
• UBS Investment Bank
• Union Bank
• Wedbush Morgan Securities
• Western Asset Management
Consulting Night – Presenters
• Accenture
• Bain & Company
• Cambridge Associates
• CAST Management Consultants, Inc.
• Clarkston Consulting
• The Concord Group
• Cornerstone Research
• CRA International
• Deloitte Consulting
• Ernst & Young LLP
• Kroll Financial Advisory Services
• LECG
• McKinsey & Company
• Mercer Human Resource Consulting
• Navigant Consulting, Inc.
• Robert Charles Lesser & Co.
Lazard, Bain, Lehman, various CS groups, various CITI groups, JMP securities, UBS, BCG, Mercer, Navigant, IDS real estate, Western Asset Management, TCW, Prudential capital, Presidio, Susquehanna, HSBC (don’t know if it is retail or not), Goldman, MS, ML, Deustche, Intel, Abernathy, Bear Sterns, Lazard, and I could keep going on…..have their own, and many times, several on campus presentations.</p>

<p>This list is exclusive for CMC, none of the other colleges in the Claremont consortium are included. The consortium i believe brings in over 200 employers for on campus presentations, over half are represented by CMC (this number could rather be the sum of companies that do presentations, career nights, resume drops, etc, but I am not sure, but CMC definetly accounts for half of the sum of whatever combination it may be)</p>

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<p>southpasadena,</p>

<p>Thanks for all the feedback. That's quite an impressive group of presenters at the Investment Banking and Consulting nights.</p>

<p>I agree with you that the Inland Empire is about to "explode" in terms of VC work. Perhaps the firms' focus on Claremont and its proximity to this market is increasing the recruiting by these firms at the college. I understand that there are fewer firms that recruit VC straight out of undergraduate program--but based upon what you have listed here I'm going to have to definitely revise my opinion on the placement and career opportunities for those going to Claremont (and apparently also on the technical capabilities of the students it is graduating).</p>

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<p>I am a senior in high school and i am looking to go to a UC next year and major in Business admin/manag or econ. I want to go to a UC, but I am considering cal poly slo. Can you help me out by giving the top undergrad business/econ programs for these schools and if I can get in with a 3.9 and 1850 SAT score. Also does anyone have information about the managerial economics program at Davis... if its any good or not? Thanks for the help.</p>