<p>Im currently at Virginia Tech as a freshman in General Engineering Courses
-Calculus II
-Chem / Chem Lab
-Vector Geometry
-Engineering Lecture/Workshop
also in Physical Geology as an elective
Looking at a 3.3-3.5 for first semester</p>
<p>SATs - 1380 - 710/670
High School GPA - 3.67 unweighted 3.8 weighted
had 4.2 weighted senior year</p>
<p>lots of ECs both from high school and college</p>
<p>in-state</p>
<p>Also, Im a female, and looking to transfer to the School of Engineering</p>
<p>Just curious, why do you want to make the switch?</p>
<p>Honestly? I don't like VT...I don't want to sound like a snobby jerk, but I look around VT, and I see no room to grow...sure, people here are smart (atleast in engineering) but no one wants to take the extra time to go the extra mile to do something worthy or intellectually-rewarding. VT's intellect pretty much stops at engineering, and as a strong liberal arts student (i swear, the first time i do poorly in an engineering class im sure i'll be ****ed that i'm not doing something that takes advantage of my above-average liberal arts/english skills) i hate it. Theres no sense of community here, and I just don't think VT will give me the type of education overall that I want. I look at the community and the education that UVA can provide, a well-balanced education on top of a BS in engineering, and i want to be a part of that.</p>
<p>You'll have a pretty good shot as a fall transfer.</p>
<p>Thanks for the rant shoebox ;). I'm applying to both E-schools for enrollment next year, and I sorta had the same mindset about UVa being more intellectually stimulating overall.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
<p>Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the understanding was that Virginia Tech had a stronger engineering program. All the hopeful engineers I've met rave about tech in that way...</p>
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought the understanding was that Virginia Tech had a stronger engineering program. All the hopeful engineers I've met rave about tech in that way...
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<p>Better? I don't know. VT's program is said to be better by some primarily because it's significantly larger than Virginia's. However, Virginia's E-school places better than VT in engineering jobs and graduate programs and almost certainly places better in non-engineering jobs. Not surprisingly, UVA engineers are more intelligent and have better options when it comes to selecting non-engineering classes. In fact, they now have the option to pursue a business minor in the McIntire School of Commerce, which is a top ten ranked business program. But I suppose if the US News rankings (which put VT ahead of Harvard and Duke) are so important to you, then choose VT. Lol.</p>
<p>It's hard to judge who has a stronger engineering program. Engineering is VT's strongest program, so that's what VT is known for. UVa, on the other hand, has a very strong CAS, so it's E-school doesn't stand out so much. But that's not to say UVa's E-school isn't any good. ENG students enrolled at UVa have a higher average SAT score and a higher average high school GPA than VT students. VT's program is much larger than UVa's and therefore has more students and probably more resources. That doesn't necessarily mean a higher quality of education though.</p>
<p>I intend to study economics in addition to computer science (an engineering major), so my personal feeling is that UVa would be a better fit for myself because I'm not a pure-ENG student.</p>
<p>Of course. And in addition to the general academic and social experience, your job opportunities would be appreciably better at UVA.</p>
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Better? I don't know. VT's program is said to be better by some primarily because it's significantly larger than Virginia's. However, Virginia's E-school places better than VT in engineering jobs and graduate programs and almost certainly places better in non-engineering jobs.
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<p>So I searched online and all the rankings I could find in this area place VT ahead of UVA. I guess all those lists must be wrong.</p>
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<p>That's pure and unadulterated bs, and one of hell of an unprovable assertion.</p>
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<p>It doesn't bespeak much about UVA's engineering program if one of it's main draws is that the students can get a minor in another department.</p>
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But I suppose if the US News rankings (which put VT ahead of Harvard and Duke) are so important to you, then choose VT. Lol.
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<p>Are the US news rankings worth anything? If not, this issue is irrelevent. If they are though--and the obsession with them by the cc community suggests that they just might have a little bit of merit--then VT might just deserve that ranking, which is squarely ahead of UVA's.</p>
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But that's not to say UVa's E-school isn't any good. ENG students enrolled at UVa have a higher average SAT score and a higher average high school GPA than VT students.
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<p>Is that necessarily a product of the school though or something the students themselves bring to it? If Harvard has students with higher SATs then the students at CalTech, does that mean Harvard has the better engineering program? Are we truly concerned with the quality of education or are we just obsessing over brand names here?</p>
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I intend to study economics in addition to computer science (an engineering major), so my personal feeling is that UVa would be a better fit for myself because I'm not a pure-ENG student.
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<p>That's very understandable.</p>
<p>I just thought you were a misguided engineering student with the mindset that leaving Vtech's engineering program and joining UVA's would somehow or another make you a better engineer.</p>
<p>Lol, as the parlance goes.</p>
<p>I'm not the one who's transferring though. ;)</p>
<p>My statement about average SAT and GPA of students just goes to show that UVa's E-school has better students who are arguably more intelligent. A friend of mine is in his sophomore year at VT and was very disappointed by the caliber of students in his freshmen engineering courses.</p>
<p>Still, that of course doesn't mean UVa has better courses, professors, or opportunities. But I have to agree with cavalier, that engineering students graduating from UVa generally have an easier time of getting into graduate programs or getting jobs.</p>
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<p>Clearly they deserve Vtech's superior engineering program. =P</p>
<p>well if it helps at all - i have tons of friends (3rd and 4th years) in the e-school at uva - i think they are all extremely smart (one got a 38 on his mcats). from what I understand, tech's engineering program focuses mostly on the practical side of engineering. you most likely have more real world focused classes and such. uva's engineering program is more theoretical, which lets uva engineering students have a wider range of job and graduate degree choices upon graduation.</p>
<p>if it helps at all, engineers who graduate from UVa make signicantly more money on average (i believe around $6000 more) than tech graduates first year out of college.</p>
<p>regardless of which school's program is stronger, i think the fact that matters most is that a Virginia degree is worth much much more - and is much more impressive - than a tech degree in the real world.</p>
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regardless of which school's program is stronger, i think the fact that matters most is that a Virginia degree is worth much much more - and is much more impressive - than a tech degree in the real world.
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<p>Of course. The undergraduate engineering rankings must be wrong. Even if UVA's program is listed beneath Vtech's, UVA must still produce the better engineers. After all, it is a magical place...</p>
<p>Isn't it obvious that UVA's engineering school MUST stress theory by virtue of not having the resources of Vtech's? And isn't practicality the heart of engineering? =D</p>
<p>mmm, just come to UVa for the social life. Our engineers also have higher starting salaries than michigan e-school kids. you can't go wrong. </p>
<p>virginia tech? lol.</p>
<p>cool beans,</p>
<p>if you think for a second that anyone is more impressed with a tech degree (save tech graduates) than a virginia degree, you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. we're not talking about football, jeesh.</p>