Transfer difficulty and views<<<

<p>How difficult is it to transfer into some of the nations most competitive schools (public and private) from a good, public state school?</p>

<p>ie: transfer to USC, NYU, UCB (out-of-state), etc.</p>

<p>Also, how are tranfer students viewed in admissions to graduate schools? Are students who graduate at a top school as a transfer viewed any differently by graduate programs, other students etc.? </p>

<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>Forget USC. I have no idea why I wrote that. Must've been thinking of it at the time for some unknown reason. I meant UCLA.</p>

<p>Aslo, what about the ivies (specifically Columbia, Cornell, Brown, Yale)?</p>

<p>If you display academic excellence, it is hardly going to matter if you are a transfer student. I've known transfer students who excelled beautifully and gone on to excellent graduate schools, Ivies included.</p>

<p>You need to provide stats in order to really measure your chances of transfering into these universities. It is very hard to get into UCLA and UCBerkeley from out of state, transfer or not. NYU is most likely much easier, as they do not give high priority to New York residents as the UC's do for Californian students.</p>

<p><3,</p>

<p>Izzie Bear</p>

<p>I am an incoming transfer to NYU this fall, couldn't be more excited. I'm not sure where you'd be transferring from, but I kind of had it easy because I went to Brandeis last year, unlike many of the NYU transfers who come from CCs. I also knew that by applying to the harder schools of NYU I would be risking it, thus I applied to Steinhardt School of Education for Communication studies. I wanted to major in Communication but would of course been happy to be in the college of arts and sciences or even gallatin. I'm sure you'll learn more about these details if you're interested in NYU and do some research. To answer your question, NYU can be relatively easy to transfer into because of its numbers. It's the largest private univ in the world thus their transfer applicant pool is also huge. I thank goodness that I got in because I couldn't stand to be at my previous school another day, and I was rejected to ivys such as Penn and Columbia, and also Barnard (not ivy). As far as Ivys go, being a transfer is easier I hear, though I can't tell you from experience. My grades first semester were not up to par for admissions, which is a shame because second semester I got straight A minuses and it would have been nice for the ivys to see those grades. But I am thrilled to be in NYC next year and I'm not sure I would have even attended the ivys if I'd gotten in. I have a feeling that if you;'re interested in Cornell it shouldn't be that painful of an admissions process, as it is known as the easiest to get into of the ivys, but the hardest to sustain (academically it is vigorous). My two brothers graduated from cornell and loved every second of it. If my grades in high school had been better nothing would've stopped me from going there. Good luck to you! Transferring is a gift!!!!</p>

<p>kimk --
any chance you can give us your exact numbers?
like college/hs gpa and important scores and stuff?</p>

<p>I'm actually considering transferring to nyu and maybe columbia..
thanks</p>

<p>SAT: 690 verbal, 650 math= 1340 total.
SAT II: 700 writing, 580 french (so hard), 550 literature (i took that one on a whim the day of the test because I got too nervous about the math.. bad decision but it hasn't really hurt me)
HS gpa was somewhere around 3.5 unweighted... All APs and honors throughout. I didn't really get the best grades especially in math and sciences. English and French were probably my strong points.
Good essays in my opinion, spent tons of time on those
As far as I know I had good recommendations.. in college it was harder because they asked for 2 teacher ones and i had only one class that was small enough for the teacher to really know me enough to write, but it worked out.
ECs: ballet company, danced since i was 4, performances, tennis team all 4 years of hs, community service crap (an award one year), student director of play in 9th grade, tutoring, FAAD (friends against drunk driving), national honors society...</p>

<p>oh and my college gpa was around 3.3 when I applied, by the end of the year after they already had my scores I had a 3.5, if only they could have seen the end result...</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses.</p>

<p>My doubts stem from what is seemingly too good to be true. To have CC students transfer into such sought-after, competitive schools makes me feel like there has to be some negative aspects to transfering as a second year student. What stops more people from doing this?</p>

<p>How much of a factor are your HS stats in transfer decisions??</p>

<p>would it be possible to transfer to nyu like school after one semester??
cuz you won't have any college scores..</p>

<p>hey Rubens, I just transferred into NYU (CAS) after two yrs. at another university. I believe you have to have a minimum of 30 semester units in order to transfer into NYU. So if you have completed one semester of at least 15 semester units and are currently in the process of completing 15 additional semester units, then you can apply. Did that make sense?? I hope so. You can check out the NYU faq board at </p>

<p>admissions.nyu.edu/forums</p>

<p>they are really helpful with answers for all kinds of admissions questions. </p>

<p>good luck:)</p>

<p>RKATC, competitive colleges seek out community college graduates for socioeconomic, racial, and even age diversity, among other factors. There are a lot of reasons why they're almost coveted, if I want to use such a strong word, among admissions committees.</p>

<p>Most transfers, regardless of where they're coming from, have a better success rate after their sophomore year. Waiting may not be a bad idea if you think your record could use some polishing.</p>

<p>From my knowledge of transfer experiences (which is pretty much limited to the stories of others on this board) I have yet to come acros students with below average high school records who go on to transfer to Ivy's like Harvard, Yale and Columbia. I think these are the more transfer unfriendly Ivy's (correct me if I'm wrong). For clarification I would classify below average as a GPA in the 2.0's, SAT's under 1400 (below average, at least, for these institutions). Do people with these sorts of stats (cough, me) who have good college records have a chance at the aforementioned schools?</p>

<p>Cornell's very transfer-friendly, and it's my impression that Brown is as well. Princeton has put a ban on transfer admissions for the upcoming semesters, and Yale has a 3% transfer admit rate, with Harvard right behind with 5%. However, you have to keep in mind that the Ivys are usually the exception to just about every rule, so that's not surprising.</p>

<p>TKoba, it will all depend on your hook, your college course load, and various other factors. Keep in mind that you can retake your SATs for transfer purposes; many if not most people do.</p>

<p>I hate to start this debate again, which I've seen on other forums here, but is a hook something that makes you stand out among everyone else or a trait that one naturally has and cannot change (socioeconomic status, race, moving schools a lot)?</p>

<p>I would be a junior transfer, and therefore retaking SAT's seems pointless; but should I actually consider retaking them (I have a 1350) ?</p>

<p>TKoba, will you be transferring from a four-year or a community college? Where would you like to transfer?</p>

<p><3,</p>

<p>Izzie Bear</p>

<p>I will be transferring from a liberal arts college (I guess its top 30 if that makes a difference). I was particularly interested in Harvard, Yale, and Columbia although I'm applying to other places, as well.</p>

<p>It'd be nice if you told us which one, just in case someone is thinking of going there. :) What makes you want to leave?</p>

<p>RKATC, why forget USC? the incoming 2004 freshman class to USC had a higher average GPA and SAT scores than ucla or berkeley. USC continually goes up the rankings year after year while UCLA has been slowly but surely going down the rankings. Currenly USC is only 5 spaces behind UCLA, and i believe the new rankings come out in august. and FYI, USC is far more difficult to get into than NYU. acceptance into USC is about on par with ucla.</p>

<p>student4u, would you mind proving that the incoming 2004 freshmen class at USC had higher gpas and SAT scores than UCLA and Berkeley? I find that very hard to believe.</p>

<p>Also, if you're out of state, USC is far easier to get into than UCLA. </p>

<p><3,</p>

<p>Izzie Bear</p>

<p>um...i got some friends from new york. Like 3-4 of them applied to UCLA and USC, all 4 got into USC. Only 1 got into UCLA.</p>