<p>nspeds - first of all, noone mentioned anything about logic but even if I did, there is no reason to claim that my point is any less logical than yours.</p>
<p>Second - arguing with an adcom would be pointless because both of us are predicting what WOULD happen for my transfer admission. I am countering your point with mine, not arguing against the structure of admissions or admissions policies (mostly because you are not even sure about what you claim). There have been plenty of people who have been accepted as transfers without SAT's and there will continue to be so.</p>
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If you are already in college, in another country granted, that is completely unfamiliar with the standardized testing administered in US high school and you are doing extremely well in your international university then it is completely** illogical **to "require" internationals to submit their SAT's as transfer students.
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<p>That conditional statement is not sound.</p>
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there have been plenty of people who have been accepted as transfers without SAT's and there will continue to be so.
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<p>I am not arguing that an SAT requirement is pervasive in transfer admissions; I argued that Brown and Dartmouth will likely reject you if you submit that SAT score or do not submit one at all, unless have you have performed well at a decent institution.</p>
<p>There have been people who have gotten into Emory Tufts etc with scores in the 1000's. Wouldnt you think I could stand a chacne to get into Brown with my 1200? Also, Im probably not going to turn in the SAT. </p>
<p>In your personal opinion, whats the best university you feel I will have an adequate chance at...lets say i have an awesome GPA (3.7+) at McGill (which is worth alot more than an american 3.7).</p>
<p>if brown requires the sat/act then you need to turn it in. If you haven't taken it yet, which you have, you will have to register for the next available test date.</p>
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There have been people who have gotten into Emory Tufts etc with scores in the 1000's. Wouldnt you think I could stand a chacne to get into Brown with my 1200? Also, Im probably not going to turn in the SAT.
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<p>Emory and Tufts are distinct from Brown and Dartmouth; the former two usually have generous admit rates will the latter comprise of highly competitive candidates for limited spots.</p>
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In your personal opinion, whats the best university you feel I will have an adequate chance at...lets say i have an awesome GPA (3.7+) at McGill (which is worth alot more than an american 3.7).
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<p>1) Whether one GPA is better than the other will be decided by the college you apply to. If you desire, you can append your application with a description of your school's curriculum or some proof that it is of the caliber of a top tier American university. The best course of action would be to speak to an adcom at the specific university you wish to apply to.
2) GPA and SATs are not the only factors taken into account; there are also ECs, essays, recommendations, short answers, major, and so forth. It also depends on what your HS GPA is, how many hours you have done in college, and so forth. Assuming you have a 3.5+ HS GPA, decent ECs, and that GPA with 15+ hours by submitting an application, I would say that you have a decent shot at Emory. This is all my opinion, of course, and I could be completely wrong.</p>
<p>hnbui - "required" is an ambiguous word. For example, Tufts "requires" the SAT but illmatic got away with not turning it in and got accepted at Tufts.</p>
<p>nspeds - you missed my point...I was trying to get a feel for how much my substandard SAT hinders my chance at a top university. That is why I wanted you to assume ideal circumstances, ie good EC's, good essays, good gpa etc</p>
<p>BTW - in the THES world ranking, McGill finished 26th, ahead of Brown Dartmouth Duke. Im nto sure I agree with the latter part but I believe McGill is a world class institution. Other rankings etc place it in the top 50 in the world.</p>
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nspeds - you missed my point...I was trying to get a feel for how much my substandard SAT hinders my chance at a top university. That is why I wanted you to assume ideal circumstances, ie good EC's, good essays, good gpa etc
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<p>Assuming that, I am still unsure about how Brown or Dartmouth would deal with such an SAT score. All I can say is that you have a "shot," though I do not think it fulfills your criterion of
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BTW - in the THES world ranking, McGill finished 26th, ahead of Brown Dartmouth Duke. Im nto sure I agree with the latter part but I believe McGill is a world class institution. Other rankings etc place it in the top 50 in the world.
<p>I would prefer a smaller, private school. Not to mention I believe Brown and Dartmouth are better than McGill in the things I care about. I dont particularly care about research, graduate programs etc (which is why dartmouth eats it in world rankings).</p>
<p>i think shanghai university did one...type in world university ranking on google and youll find it...even that is based on OVERALL, not just undergrad...but THES is completely grad.</p>
<p>If you look at THES, you will see that the top universities are still top/good universities. Of course it isnt completely accurate when considering just undergrad but you can get a feel for your school. McGill, like I said, is research intensive and thats one of the reasons I dont like it. But its still a top school, there are plenty of americans who chose to come here over Penn, Columbia etc. Adcoms will certainly know the name of McGill...in fact, im surprised you are unfamiliar. I personally find its intl reputation to be overrated. For example, I feel that Queens University and University of Toronto are just as good as McGIll in most areas yet they dont have the same intl rep.</p>