<p>Hi everyone... </p>
<p>I'm a current W student, and I'm interested in applying to another school as a transfer. I want something with a more theoretical basis to economics -- I'm thinking about maybe even getting a Ph.D. in economics eventually -- and so I wanted to see if anyone had (or had any advice on) transferred from W to either H, Y, S, or M?</p>
<p>In another post about transferring I put up, I just mentioned HYP... of course now I realize that P doesn't accept transfers and S/M are also really great for econ (in fact I'm really loving MIT right now... A lot of my favorite professors are there... i.e. Jon Gruber @ MIT)</p>
<p>This is not the time to knock W. I absolutely love Penn and Wharton.... great city, awesome classes, great people.... and if you're reading this and you're a high school student looking for a business school, W is definitely the place to go. I'm just looking for something different (theoretical econ, not business econ) and I wanted to know if transfer is an option. </p>
<p>Thanks for your help guys!</p>
<p>I have reviewed your other threads about wanting to transfer to these other elite schools from Penn(W) so that you can pursue “theoretical economics” at the highest level and possibly get a PhD…and yet I don’t see Chicago (rated tops by most economics experts) or Berkeley on your list…</p>
<p>…if, I were to make a calculated deduction…I would think that you are a PRESTIGE-monger…who wants to transfer out to a better PRESTIGE school for some strange reason rather than based on the strength of economics…am I right?</p>
<p>I would love to help you in your decision making…but you seem not to have done any due diligence of SIMPLE GOOGLE RESEARCH and look up NRC top economics departments on the schools that really matter in ECONOMICS…</p>
<p>…if you were visiting Stanford, Harvard, Princeton, MIT, or even Penn (your home institution) and ask those who are economics majors about what economics program they respect the most…many of them would say Chicago without hesitation…</p>
<p>…that is why…I believe you are a PRESTIGE -monger…</p>
<p>…and by the way, your chance of getting in as transfer to Harvard, Stanford, or Chicago is less than 1.9%…they are three of the toughest schools to transfer into…just FYI…</p>
<p>Even more to the point…it would be like you going to H/P/Y schools threads and asking about transfer opportunities so that you can have the BEST computer science/engineering education without mentioning Stanford or MIT on the list…you get it?</p>
<p>Though I can’t speak for other elite colleges (aside from noting that it’s extremely difficult to transfer into one of them), I can say that Stanford places its transfer priorities on applicants from the two-year sector (community colleges). Transfer admits typically bring to the class valuable perspectives shaped by extremely unusual experiences, time in the military, etc. One of Stanford’s transfers into the Class of 2012 (Tenzin Seldon) was a refugee from Tibet who came from a community college. She’s now at Oxford…as a Rhodes Scholar:</p>
<p>[Two</a> Stanford students, five alumni named the newest Rhodes, Mitchell scholars](<a href=“You've requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News”>You've requested a page that no longer exists | Stanford News) </p>
<p>Her story provides a good indication of what it takes to be a successful transfer applicant. They don’t want to take people who’re already in prestigious schools and who simply want to “upgrade” to a “higher level” of prestige. Personally, I don’t think your desire to study theoretical economics will provide a compelling enough reason to transfer. Successful transfer applicants bring something great (and something that is lacking) to the institution. They fill an important niche. Your reason to transfer simply benefits you without helping the school. More info here:</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=626979361173[/url]”>Stanford Open Office Hours: Richard Shaw, Part 4 of 4 | This is the final video in Dean Shaw's Open Office Hours; many thanks to Dean Shaw for his participation. In this video, Dean Shaw answers your questions... | By Stanford University | Facebook;
<p>And:</p>
<p>[Transfer</a> Requirements & Process : Stanford University](<a href=“http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/application/transfer/index.html]Transfer”>http://www.stanford.edu/dept/uga/application/transfer/index.html)</p>
<p>^^agreed. See most recent transfer’s special qualities of Taylor Uhl:</p>
<p>[Top</a> women’s soccer scorer transfers to Stanford - SFGate](<a href=“Top women's soccer scorer transfers to Stanford”>Top women's soccer scorer transfers to Stanford)</p>
<p>If you read the article you will appreciate that she will greatly CONTRIBUTE to Stanford’s athletic soccer program and personally BENEFIT from the biomedical engineering studies she wishes to pursue…</p>
<p>…as alea noted: Stanford seeks those who will most greatly contribute to Stanford’s community and the world and those who can MOST benefit from a Stanford education…</p>
<p>@gravitas2, your post #2 absolutely REEKS of insecurity. You really don’t need to pump up UChicago at every chance you get. I’ve seen other people make the same observations about your posting behavior. OP has his own reasons for choosing those schools, and if he is a “prestige whore”, so be it. No need to attack him about not including your alma mater in his list of schools. Jesus. </p>
<p>Also, undergraduate economics programs at the best schools are largely homogenous. It’s ridiculous to think that going to Chicago Econ over HYPSM Econ will give the OP a significant advantage, if there is any.</p>
<p>@TheBanker. I appreciate your concern about not pumping up “UChicago” (the same school you NOW attend) and that doing so “REEKS of insecurity”…I agree that I may go overboard at times to advocate for my alma mater when I feel it is needed…Chicago having certain strengths especially in economics, physics, math, liberal arts…and definite WEAKNESSES in NOT having any real ENGINEERING and very small CS department…</p>
<p>…by the way, no where in my post did I tell the OP to attend Chicago over the other schools…but just to consider adding it to his “list”…and I get the sense that there may be some transference issues going on here in that you may be doing a lot of soul-searching yourself similar to the OP about not being happy at Chicago and possibly getting out of Dodge as well?..I don’t know…just a feeling…</p>
<p>…it is unfortunate that Chicago will always take a back seat…and forever be an underdog…against the schools on the coasts…that’s just the way it is and I don’t see it changing…</p>
<p>…the BIG kicker for me (maybe one day you will experience it yourself) is when neither of your children (brainwashed well by their Bay-area peers) show any interest in applying to your alma mater because it was in the Midwest despite both having visited the school for alumni events many times…cuts you to the core…and both choosing to attend HYPS schools on both coasts…</p>
<p>…having now gone through two admission cycles…all I can say is I’ll try my best (not always perfect nor wise) to give a unique perspective as a Chicago grad with children attending HYPS schools…</p>
<p>…once again, thank you for your concern…</p>
<p>gravitas, I don’t think your post showed any sign of insecurity at all. I was thinking the exact same thing in your first post. The only redemption for the OP is that he/she probably does not want to be in the Midwest, which is understandable. </p>
<p>But as far as your concern for Chicago’s reputation, I think it’s absolutely fine. Considering it’s most recent admissions numbers, I think Chicago is now starting to get the attention to it’s reputation that it once lacked.</p>
<p>Can you really blame someone for not wanting to go to CHICAGO???</p>
<p>Lol hey guys calm down this isn’t the place to fight…lets be civil 
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<p>I’m seriously considering UC Berkeley and UChicago for grad school. My parents won’t let me leave the east coast for undergrad unless I’m going to Stanford bc it costs a lot to move and get home, etc. they’re willing to do it or S bc they’re biased. Otherwise I would obviously apply to Chicago and probably a few others I.e. My friend who goes to WashU for econ loves it</p>
<p>I’m not in it for prestige… If I were I would not transfer from W which I know has a lot of name recognition. W was my number 1 choice out of high school… i applied ED and got in but i would have chosen it over any other school in the country. Now a few years later im just looking for a good econ dept and I really like the economists who are at HYSM…</p>
<p>I would like to hear from someone who transferred from b school to econ to see if they think it was worth it. I love W, but is there a big difference between business and econ? Did it help with grad school? I’m interested in transferring bc I feel out of place… I literally don’t know a single whartonite who wants to go for a PhD. But I’m not even sure if that’s a bad thing… Maybe the business background will be advantageous! </p>
<p>Thanks for the advice on penn econ. Maybe I’ll transfer or even try a dual degree. I didn’t think about it bc I don’t know any economists at Penn… But it definitely seems like a great option. If anyone has done a dual degree with penn and Wharton for econ let me know. I’d like to know if you thought it was repetitive or worth it… I know hbs prof Lauren Cohen did it!</p>