<p>Hi I am a sophmore finance major at the IU Kelley school of business and am majoring in finance. I have a 3.69 GPA and want to transfer into aem at cornell mainly because I am a NY resident and it will be cheap. I know my GPA is lacking but according to U.S. News & World Report (2005) Undergraduate business programs kelley is #7 in the country for finance. Do I have a chance in hell for a transfer? I should because cornell is a little worse right?</p>
<p>No, I do not think Cornell considers IU's business program in the same league..IU may have a solid department but the students there in general are not anywhere near the caliber of students coming from Cornell and are not getting the same jobs - so yes..u will probably not have a very easy time transferring. Just because something is ranked higher, does not mean it is harder to get into or more prestigious.</p>
<p>Put it this way, students in my hs were in the bottom decile of the class and got excepted to IU kelley, which is a school that has an average SAT score of 1150. Cornell is an ivy league school, there is no one who will tell you that IU has better recruiting or is considered remotely close to cornell in academics.</p>
<p>Worse? LOL.</p>
<p>You can apply, but external tranfers are extremely competitive for AEM. I'm expecting a less than 10% acceptance rate for external transfers applying to AEM this year.</p>
<p>i am applying for AEM (spring 07), too.... whysee.. ppl with lower GPA's also getin.. I have seen for myself on these forums.. go ahead . apply
By the way are you applying for spring 07?</p>
<p>Yes I will be applying for spring O7,osu. sports684, Kelley is easy to get into after transferring from Iu after a year, but i got direct admission which requires a minimum of 1270 SAT and top 10%, I got a 2150 and was in the top 21/488. I was turned down from cornell because i lacked any real extracurriculars. Here are some stats about IU Kelley
Rankings
Undergraduate Program
All Universities Public Universities
Business Week (2006)<br>
Overall 10 4</p>
<p>Public Accounting Report (2005)<br>
Accounting 9 </p>
<p>U.S. News & World Report (2005)<br>
Overall 11 6
Accounting 9 5
Entrepreneurship 6 2
Finance 7 4
Information Systems 12 8
International Business 12 8
Management 7 6
Marketing 7 5
Production/Operations 6 3
Quantitative Analysis 9 6
Supply Chain/Logistics 11 8
Business Week (2004)<br>
Core teaching quality 1 </p>
<p>I think those are pretty good stats considering Cornell came in with a ranking of 14 in Business weekly. Here's a link for all the Business week rankings for those interested
<a href="http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/%5B/url%5D">http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/06rankings/</a>
So so you still think I have no chance?</p>
<p>also I am in the hutton honors program</p>
<p>well, you cant compare cornell with IU, go and see overall rankings in US news , you'll realiize .</p>
<p>Those BusinessWeek rankings don't mean ****. Stop deluding yourself. They're just numbers.</p>
<p>I guess AJkates is right, theyre sh**t, they dont mean anything... if you really think indiana is that good .. why do you wanna transfer???
I think its time you realized .. Cornell and Indiana arent in the same league</p>
<p>but that shouldnt keep you from applying, because GPA is not the only criteria believe me !! there are ppl who get in with lower GPAs.., by the way have you considered any other schools .. tht take in ppl in the spring???</p>
<p>there was recently a University of Maryland study that said for business majors, it's not about how the business magazines and newspapers rank the schools, but rather how prestigious the university as a whole is that determines the number of job offers and how high your salary will be.</p>
<p>i agree gomestar, i have realized this , and thats the reason I want to make the move... I am at OSU(pretty highly ranked fin. program.. right after Kelley), but i see no one comes here to hire ..</p>
<p>I have a friend who wants to transfer too. His stats are 3.9 GPA and an accounting major at University of Illinois Urbana Champagne. I think he's crazy, because UI has the best and most prestigious accounting program in the USA. But do you think he'll get more offers at Cornell?</p>
<p>100% you are crazy if you think that a student from U of Illinois (which does have a great business program) will get more students into a top four accounting firm than cornell, an ivy league school. Its not necessarily the rep of the program or department, but rather the rep of the school which helps bring recruiters. For example, Kean College in New Jersey has a top ranked teaching program, but does that mean that a student from Kean College will get a better teaching position than a student majoring in education from Columbia which has a worse ranked program (just a hypothetical example)....come on now.</p>
<p>i think u've lost it whysee, CORNELL is CORNELL, none of these schools you talk about.. come even close to it... rankings are sh**t.... they dont mean anything.. it's the reputation of the school tht matters.. and just to let you know.. ppl from Cornell can get jobs wherever they want... even psychology majors at Cornell would be preferred for an IB job over a business major from indiana/ ohio state/ illinois UC etc.....</p>
<p>Indiana has an A+ Job Placement and rank ahead of Cornell in nearly every business ranking (graduate and undergraduate). They are in the top 10 in Business Week, Top 11 in US News, rank very high in many disciples (including your Finance program). I wouldn't say that a Kelley graduate wouldn't have the same oppurtunities as a Cornell graduate, especially one in the Honors program. Both are heavily recruited, and you are kidding yourself if you believe that Indiana isn't recruited because their test scores for the incoming freshman don't match Cornell's. Employers don't look at the product from 4 years ago, the one that applied to the school. They look at what they have learned in college, how it relates to their careers, and the overall finished product. And with what has been rated as the best faculty in the nation, I don't think you will be the same person as you were as a freshman. There are TONS of companies from NYC, Chicago, and other major markets that come to IU to recruit students and offer them jobs. I can understand transferring for cost concerns (IU has essentially no need based grants), but if you think that Cornell is going to give you a ton of more oppurtunities, I would have to question that, because IU has a ton and a great reputation.</p>
<p>how many ppl from IU can study human ecology and get into business consulting???? IU is not even comparable to cornell</p>
<p>I'm sure you could study Human Ecology and still get into business accounting from Indiana. I bet you could even do it at Indiana State. It's all up to the student and their motivation. If you have a high GPA, employers will interview you. If you have an affable personality, employers want you. A college isn't going to give you a job, they will give you an oppurtunity for a job. If you are a good person, it won't matter what your major is, people will want you, they will hire you. As an overall school, I wouldn't compare IU to Cornell. Cornell is lightyears ahead of IU. However, in business, in going into Finance, I don't see why you would say Cornell is better, because from an academic and ranking standpoint, they aren't. All the oppurtunities that a Cornell business graduate gets a Kelley graduate with honors would likely get. They would both get the interview, the potential internship position. It's the one with the personality, not with the degree from the more prestigious overall university that will get the job. Companies want to hire good workers, people they want to be around, and they could care less about what major that comes from or what school that comes from.</p>
<p>An education is what you make it. Overall the degree means very little, it's the person and skills behind the degree that will get you the job.</p>
<p>If it were me, I'd rather be at Cornell with some intelligent people and get an Ivy League degree, but it would mean nothing without acquiring the skills to succeed.</p>