Transfer question

<p>hi i currently have a 2090 SAT. 760 IIC, 760 IC, 690 BIO, 680 US HIS</p>

<p>Next year, im going to be a freshman at UofM or i will be taking a gap year. I was looking to reapply as a transfer to stanford, harvard, yale, MIT, chicago. I applied to stanford harvard and yale before but was not admitted.</p>

<p>should i retake the SAT and if so when? is it ok to retake during college? i've heard its ridiculously hard to get into top 5 schools as a transfer (especially harvard with such a low SAT.)</p>

<p>Would i have any realistic chances if i have a 4.0 UMich GPA at its engineering school? also should i apply for sophmore or junior standing?</p>

<p>Thanks for all your help :) these few days have been tough for me, but i have resolved to try even harder from now on.</p>

<p>I think it's a little early to assume you'll get a 4.0 in an engineering major from what I've heard it's one of the toughest majors in existence.</p>

<p>of course. im just saying, would it be possible? since this is a rather hypothetical question.</p>

<p>It's really hard to say. Some schools barely focus standardized test scores when evaluating transfer candidates, but as you said, some schools, such as Harvard, Yale, MIT, etc., care to maintain their high statistics and will take greater note of your scores.</p>

<p>It seems fair to assume, however, that the more impressive your other credentials are, the less attention will be given to standardized test scores...at any school (assuming your scores are not horrible, which yours most certainly are not).</p>

<p>First off, your college GPA could not be better, literally, and Your SAT II scores are solid. Also, The fact that you took so many of them can only help you.</p>

<p>Most admissions officers will tell you, however, that when seeking transfer admission, the most important factors of your application are your recommendations and reasons for wanting to transfer. </p>

<p>Good recs really allow the admissions comittee to understand what type of student you are (for all they know, a 4.0 GPA might just mean that you're a relentless workaholic and not necessarily talented, and a 4.0 is way more impressive at some schools than at others).</p>

<p>Your reasons for wanting to transfer should be COMPELLING. Some schools require that this be the focus of your essay while others simply request a small paragraph about it, but regardless, it is necessary that you get these reasons across. Make sure the only reason you want to transfer ISN'T reputation or prestige—give specific reasons, convince them to the best of your ability that their school is a better fit for you than your current institution.</p>

<p>You said that you plan on taking a year off after this year, which sounds like a great idea. It's the perfect opportunity to do something totally impressive that will bolster your application. </p>

<p>I realize I've gone above and beyond answering your questions, and for that I apologize. I will answer your questions now.</p>

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should i retake the SAT and if so when? is it ok to retake during college? i've heard its ridiculously hard to get into top 5 schools as a transfer (especially harvard with such a low SAT.)

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<p>If you're able to get recs from teachers who REALLY know you and can do nothing but praise you, present reasons for seeking transfer admission that are compelling and reasonably unique to your case, and do something impressive in your year off, my answer is no, there's no need to retake the SATI. Your score isn't jaw-droppingly amazing, but it's definitely on the high-end of solid.</p>

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Would i have any realistic chances if i have a 4.0 UMich GPA at its engineering school? also should i apply for sophmore or junior standing?

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<p>My same reasoning applies here. Obviously more college courses under your belt will increase your chances, but if your application shines regardless, try for sophomore year.</p>

<p>Sorry for being so lengthly, I'm applying to transfer myself, so I'm empathetic to others in my situation.</p>

<p>I hope all this helped.</p>

<p>I'm sure a 4.0 is possible but I'm guessing the curve is pretty harsh for engineering majors especially at a great school like Mich. I know that a 3.6 in engineering is going to be far more impressive than a 4.0 in english or some other liberal arts major.</p>

<p>Its possible to get a 4.0 in umich engineering, but i do no think that it is common. I am in lsa and was positive that i would get a 4.0, but i took a math course that was way above my level and got a B+ and had a writing professor who didnt give any As, and I got an A-. One thing about Umich is that if you get an A+, it still counts as a 4.0, not higher like at other schools. So, its possible (if you get the right professors and are in the right classes), but I would say that it is not realistic. I think that you could re-take your SATs and it would only elp you if you improved. If you take a gap year, I think that you should do something fabulous, not just travelling around. I dont think that you will get into the colleges you want to if you just spend your parents' money around the world. :)</p>

<p>4.0 at UofM Engy is something like ranking top 5%-10% in ALL classes. That's...just crazy unless you're one of those valedictorian types :).</p>

<p>Is it really that hard? Four of my friends just got 4.0s last semester. All of them took the supposed weeder classes. It's odd cause none of them really "studied" like they did in high school. </p>

<p><em>He went and got Ice Cream with me an hour before his exam w/o studying prior to it, still pulled an A</em></p>

<p>Cvjn, are their overrall grades 4.0's? I hear that over the course of many semesters, it's really hard to keep above that A- line. That's probably why there's so many 3.9's..</p>

<p>Yeah, their overall is a 4.0, and I'm pretty sure at least 3 of them will be keeping that. One's complaining about his classes so his might drop, but otherwise they're doing, I guess pretty good.</p>