<p>I will not even bother exposing the infelicities in your argument(s). This minor indulgence is more than sufficient to express my disdain.</p>
<p>stay off thesaurus.com</p>
<p>As the great sage Samson T Dwarfeheimer once wrote, "Yesteryears from which we came like apples attached to a sausage'</p>
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<p>Though excessive vanity in oneself may make you see situations differently, there are some persons who do not use a thesaurus. To be sure, it is ironic how I incessently receive that response when I have never even visited the website. To persons such as you, abstruse rhetoric admits of only one option.</p>
<p>Rather myopic, is it not?</p>
<p>Edit: Also, thesauruses can only provide single word 'synonyms' for other single words; you cannot consult a thesaurus with merely a definition. The terms used in my previous post, and this one, encompass several terms in its definition that hinders its discovery in a thesaurus.</p>
<p>EDIT: I never thought I'd stoop to correcting gramatical errors on the internet before and I have with this post.</p>
<p>nspeds: Make no mistake about it, others here can write in the same fancy style. We've all studied those SAT wordlists, and we've all read the books. So why not?</p>
<p>To begin, this is just a message board, a place for casual conversation. We want ideas relayed succinctly and lucidly, so we can have our questions answered and get the hell out. We're not here to pore over others' sentences and analyze obscure thoughts.</p>
<p>Second, such style comes off as pretentious--I'm mean, you're just a student! When you become an eminent and established man, we'll savor every word of yours. Not now though.</p>
<p>Please--I beg you--purchase this book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/020530902X/qid=1126722948/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-3462415-1124060?v=glance&s=books&n=507846%5B/url%5D">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/020530902X/qid=1126722948/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-3462415-1124060?v=glance&s=books&n=507846</a>. Please! If you can't afford it, I'm sure members here would happily donate. :p</p>
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nspeds: Make no mistake about it, others here can write in the same fancy style. We've all studied those SAT wordlists, and we've all read the books. So why not?
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<p>I am a logophile.</p>
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Second, such style comes off as pretentious--I'm mean, you're just a student! When you become an eminent and established man, we'll savor every word of yours. Not now though.
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<p>Are you saying that my status prevents me from using certain words?</p>
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To begin, this is just a message board, a place for casual conversation. We want ideas relayed succinctly and lucidly, so we can have our questions answered and get the hell out. We're not here to pore over others' sentences and analyze obscure thoughts.
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<p>They are obscure because you do not understand them. There is nothing ambiguous in my posts.</p>
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Please--I beg you--purchase this book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846%5B/url%5D">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846</a>. Please! If you can't afford it, I'm sure members here would happily donate.
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<p>So my writing style is poor? That is an awful insult, though my papers beg to disagree. I will purchase the book, at any rate, because I am always interested in self-improvement.</p>
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EDIT: I never thought I'd stoop to correcting gramatical errors on the internet before and I have with this post.
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<p>You are not 'stooping low'. It is apropos to correct one's grammar. Where is the infelicity? Show it, I will apologize and make a mental note of it, and move on... it is that simple. </p>
<p>And you all accused me of thinking too much in a 'casual conversation'.</p>
<p>As for all of you...</p>
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Please--I beg you ** all<a href="my%20emphasis">/b</a>
--purchase this book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846%5B/url%5D">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846</a>. Please! If you can't afford it, I'm sure members here would happily donate.
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<p>An excerpt from one of the comments:</p>
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When I first became an avid reader of Mr. Buckley's work I was amazed at how often his use of words was attacked. I wondered whether a new crime bill had been passed that outlawed a person being articulate. Why should someone who joyfully uses language be pilloried for doing so? Even commercial reviewers feel the need to go to their thesaurus, trot out words that they have never used before and look foolish. They become guilty of the offense of affectation that so often is the charge against Mr. Buckley.
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<p>Haha, you're hopeless. Since you missed the actual argument, the kind man that I am, I'll reiterate: We're here for casual discussion.</p>
<p>By the way, a *real logophile would have interpreted 'obscure' as "not readily noticed or seen."</p>
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Haha, you're hopeless. Since you missed the actual argument, the kind man that I am, I'll reiterate: We're here for casual discussion.
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<p>I do not care for what you are here. If you do not enjoy my posts, do not read them. I am not violating a rule.</p>
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By the way, a real logophile would have interpreted 'obscure' as "not readily noticed or seen."
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<p>HAH! Now you know what a real logophile is...</p>
<p>Being the 'kind man that I am', here is a definition of 'obscure':</p>
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obscure |?b?skyo?r| adjective ( -scurer , -scurest ) not discovered or known about; uncertain : his origins and parentage are obscure. not clearly expressed or easily understood : obscure references to Proust. not important or well known : an obscure religious sect. hard to make out or define; vague : figurative I feel an obscure resentment. (of a color) not sharply defined; dim or dingy. verb [ trans. ] keep from being seen; conceal : gray clouds obscure the sun. make unclear and difficult to understand : the debate has become obscured by conflicting ideological perspectives. overshadow : none of this should obscure the skill, experience, and perseverance of the workers. DERIVATIVES obscuration |?äbsky??r? sh ?n| noun obscurely adverb ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French obscur, from Latin obscurus dark, from an Indo-European root meaning cover. THE RIGHT WORD* Obscure* is the general term for something that is unclear or not easy to understand; abstruse and recondite are more formal terms. Obscure often expresses dissatisfaction at one's inability to identify something (: the causation of his mental disorder is obscure), or, more critically, refers to something that's not sufficiently clearly expressed ( | the law is too obscure to interpret correctly; we find it difficult to address your obscure complaints). A reference to, say, "an obscure congressman" is a dismissive comment, suggesting that this is someone not only little known but perhaps deservedly so. Abstruse is more precise in its meaning'difficult to understand'and usually implies that the subject would be puzzling to most anyone (: reading her essays, one wonders if even she can understand her abstruse philosophy). Recondite denotes topics that are known and understood by only a few experts:: recondite though their theme may be, they demonstrate that it is not without relevance. There is often a critical suggestion that difficulty or obscurity has been deliberately sought out or magnified.
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<p>Source: Oxford English Dictionary</p>
<p>Also...</p>
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logophile |?lôg??f?l; ?läg?-| noun a lover of words.
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<p>Logophiles do not, by definition, endorse one interpretation of a word over another, as you stated. We are merely persons who love words! </p>
<p>Is that too obscure for you?</p>
<p>Please, please, continue to argue. You will be fulfilling the purpose for which you use this forum: casual discussion...</p>
<p>... that is the purpose... right? You accuse me of not understanding your argument, while even you cannot keep track of it.</p>
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We're here for casual discussion.
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<p>Supercilious 17 year-olds...</p>
<p>I do not have time to argue, so you may do as you please. You are right, I am wrong; my english is poor and yours is not; I cannot use certain words because I do not have enough status (perhaps there is a secret dictionary of words for those who are more accomplished, or perhaps this is a form of 'word discrimination'. Now who would have thought of that? But yes, you are right.) Oh... and... yeah, casual conversation. I am sorry about that too. The forum rules state, quite lucidly, the type of words and grammar one should use. Even if it does not state that, it still clearly states that we should conform to your purpose.</p>
<p>Seriously, though, I do not care. If there is one benefit I gained from this thread, it was the grammar text you recommended, which I will peruse with pleasure. Thanks for the suggestion, and I concede to whatever arguments you propound.</p>
<p>Have a good day:)</p>
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<p>You too, Nspeds. </p>
<p>Sincerely,</p>
<p>A fellow logophile:)</p>
<p>nspeds, i really hope you don't write like this in your college essays. </p>
<p>for the record, your arguments make you look like a fool. You take everything people say at face value and dodge the criticism with that. Get a life, man.</p>
<p>Look, nspeds, I was trying only to help. If you carry a formal tone in an informal situation, it's going to create an ugly scene. I wasn't, and still am not, trying to mentor you, as if I were wiser or smarter than you are; I was simply trying to caution you from humiliating yourself. Really. I tried to present this nicely and reasonably, but you came back in flames, and I must say I've lost some respect.</p>
<p>(I won't respond to the other nonsense. The "real" logophile that you are, I assume you can come to accept my definition of "obscure." :p)</p>
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nspeds, i really hope you don't write like this in your college essays.
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<p>It is unfortunate that I do, and even more unfortunate that Georgetown accepted me with it. I suppose they had to lower their standards...</p>
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for the record, your arguments make you look like a fool. You take everything people say at face value and dodge the criticism with that. Get a life, man.
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<p>'For the record,' you have yet to provide a single substantive post in this thread. Let us take a brief tour of your 'contributions' (if they can be called as such):</p>
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<p>Substantive? Hardly.</p>
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nspeds, i really hope you don't write like this in your college essays. </p>
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for the record, your arguments make you look like a fool. You take everything people say at face value and dodge the criticism with that. Get a life, man.
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<p>Substantive? Strike two.</p>
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If you carry a formal tone in an informal situation, it's going to create an ugly scene.
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I was simply trying to caution you from humiliating yourself.
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<p>From whom? Aside from your unconscionable banter, I have a PM box full of compliments for my striving to maintain discipline. </p>
<p>You say that you are not attempting to mentor me, but your rhetoric suggests otherwise. I suggest you gain some more experience in life so you do not humilaite yourself.</p>
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I tried to present this nicely and reasonably,
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<p>Your posts were sarcastic. </p>
<p>Do you want me to take your posts seriously? Okay, I will provide a systematic analysis:</p>
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nspeds: Make no mistake about it, others here can write in the same fancy style. We've all studied those SAT wordlists, and we've all read the books. So why not?
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<p>This is not really an argument, but I suppose the rest of your post substantiates/clarifies your point.</p>
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To begin, this is just a message board, a place for casual conversation.
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Since I do not derive pleasure from belaboring my point, I shall 'cut and paste' a response that was advanced in this very thread:</p>
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I do not care for what you are here. If you do not enjoy my posts, do not read them. I am not violating a rule.
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We want ideas relayed succinctly and lucidly, so we can have our questions answered and get the hell out.
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<p>'We'? What constitutes 'we'? Speak for yourself. Come now, seventeen years of age and you are not aware of that principle?</p>
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We're not here to pore over others' sentences and analyze obscure thoughts.
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<p>Then do not read the post. It is that simple. No one is coercing you to read anything. I do not like watching television, but I do not complain to the producers and companies that endorse it; I merely do not watch television!</p>
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Second, such style comes off as pretentious--I'm mean, you're just a student! When you become an eminent and established man, we'll savor every word of yours. Not now though.
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<p>Ah, here we are with the 'word discrimation'. My status disqualifies me from using certain terms... I will let the absurdity of the claim seep in for the sake of not humiliating you any further. </p>
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Please--I beg you--purchase this book: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846%5B/url%5D">http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...=books&n=507846</a>. Please! If you can't afford it, I'm sure members here would happily donate.
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<p>Ah yes, another 'nice and reasonable' argument presented by you... or wait... it is not!!!! Yet another insult, though a blessing in disguise, I suppose, since the text is now being mailed to me as we speak:)</p>
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Haha, you're hopeless.
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<p>Nice and reasonable? No, just more of your frivolous vituperations.</p>
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Since you missed the actual argument, the kind man that I am, I'll reiterate: We're here for casual discussion.
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<p>You render your previous argument, but I have already responded to this. You are no authority or body on this forum, so cease using the term 'we', and there is no explicit rule that forbids formal writing.</p>
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*By the way, a real logophile would have interpreted 'obscure' as "not readily noticed or seen."
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...and a misinterpetation of the term 'logophile'.</p>
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Look, nspeds, I was trying only to help. If you carry a formal tone in an informal situation, it's going to create an ugly scene.
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<p>I am ascetic. I do not care about impressing or asserting superiority. I try to provide help (and I do not care if people take it), and I try to obtain advice from posters who are familiar and knowledgeable of this arduous process. You are not one of them.</p>
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I've lost some respect.
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<p>It matters not.</p>
<p><a href="I%20won't%20respond%20to%20the%20other%20nonsense.%20The" title="real" logophile that you are, I assume you can come to accept my definition of "obscure.">quote</a>
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<p>I shall inform the creators of the OED that a random twit knows the real definition of 'obscure'. Perhaps if you work hard enough, you might attain a job with them!</p>
<p>I got my definition off of here, by the way: <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obscure%5B/url%5D">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obscure</a></p>
<p>nspeds, I just don't care anymore. My life isn't on this message board. I'm not going to come back with an argument, even though I easily could. Whatever. Just whatever. This is really stupid. Live however you want.</p>
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I got my definition off of here, by the way: <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obscure%5B/url%5D%5B/quote%5D">http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=obscure
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<p>...and I obtained it from here:</p>
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Oxford English Dictionary
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nspeds, I just don't care anymore. My life isn't on this message board. I'm not going to come back with an argument, even though I easily could. Whatever. Just whatever. This is really stupid.
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<p>Congratulations! You finally reached that conclusion...</p>
<p>it's nice that there are some people liking your posts.. because I always see people getting into arguments with you about them. so I thought I could give a rational reason why. i think you have directly insulted me enough for this. i don't need to be called a "random twit" or a "supercilious 17 year-old." .. not to mention the numerous other hateful lines. it was just trying to help you. calm down. it is offensive and rather hurtful.</p>
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it is offensive and rather hurtful.
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<p>As is your sarcastic and derisive tone. I respond nicely to those who are genuinely nice.</p>