<p>Hello, I am a transfer student planning on attending UCSD this fall. Although I have been paying in-state tuition for my CC, it seems there will be an issue of residency for UCSD. I wish for an immediate response since the SIR deadline is June 1st;</p>
<p>The criteria is as follows:
1.Physical Presence
2.Intent to become a California resident
3.Financial Independence.</p>
<p>The first two are no problem, I have been in California since 2008, have DL, and everything. The third, however states this:</p>
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Note: This requirement makes it extremely difficult for most undergraduates who do not have a parent living in California to qualify for classification as a resident at a UC campus. This includes transfer students from community colleges and other post-secondary schools in California.
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<p>Now heres the thing:</p>
<p>My mom has been paying utilities, and has a housing contract since August 2009. She hasn't been employed at all since 2011 (retired), but she does live here from time to time; she goes back to Virginia for vacation, and to help renovate the house she plans to sell. Here is the paragraph I think applies to her:</p>
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The financial independence requirement will not be a factor in residence determination if you are a student who is financially dependent upon a California resident parent who meets the university's requirements for residence for tuition purposes <a href="one%20year%20physical%20presence%20with%20intent%20to%20remain%20in%20the%20state">b</a>.**
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<p>So will I be able to be considered for in-state residency for this year? I will be turning 24 anyways next year, nullifying the requirement.</p>
<p>Thank you anyone for their helpful advice</p>
<p>Where has she actually been living, and where has she been paying state income tax - California or Virginia?</p>
<p>She’s been living here in California, and in the house that she is trying to sell in Virginia; she has been paying state income tax in Virginia.</p>
<p>Has your mother taken steps to establish residency? Does she hold a California drivers license? Is she registered to vote in California? Did she do these things more than one year ago? Has she relinquished her residency in Virginia and considers California home?</p>
<p>Just living part time in the state does not count as holding residency. She must show intent to remain in the state which can be represented by such actions as the above.</p>
<p>Also be careful presuming that once you are 24 you will automatically be a resident, CCs will consider you a resident with looser rules than UCs. A UC will not consider 12 months in CA as time toward residency if you were taking 6 units of college during that time. IIR</p>
<p>I am under the impression that your parents residency doesn’t change your residency, unless they were residents before you turned eighteen. How old were you in 2009? I’m thinking 21 or so.</p>
<p>In a sense, isn’t she living in California and “working” in Virginia (on the house)? If she sells the house in Virginia, I assume she will live full time in California?</p>
<p>This is one of those cases in which asking for online opinions doesn’t have much of a point. The only answer that matters is the one you get from UCSD. You should ask them.</p>
<p>As you have discovered, residency requirements, not only differ from state to state, but from college to college within the same state, and may have nothing in common with the state’s requirements for residency. it is the call of each college to make. it is also up to each college as to how they investigate and enforce it. </p>
<p>So as Sikorsky states, you need to talk t UCSD specifically. The enforcement and investigation aspect is often a changing situation, or done on a random basis, so be aware that if you do get away with state residency without meeting the stated rules, you can get caught later if and when a school decides to clamp down on that aspect. Yes, I 've seen it happen.</p>
<p>It also appears (although I could be mistaken) that the OP’s mother maintained a home in California simply to give the OP a place to live. She did it to support him. So, not only does her employment, payment of taxes, and maintenance of a residence in Virginia undermine the claim that she was a California resident, her maintenance of a home in California sabotages any claim the OP might have that he was living independently.</p>
<p>In any event, the person you want to speak with at UCSD is the “residence deputy,” although I would doubt that he or she would be willing to give you a definitive answer without seeing all documentation to support your claim.</p>
<p>Here in NY, when you register for community college in my area, or even my local 4 year SUNY, not a whole lot goes into verification of state/county residence. They ask if you live in the county/state or a certain county in CT, and you pay accordingly. But it can be a whole other story if you are going to another SUNY. My son took a course upstate at a local CC and had to pay out of county price and then have the differential reimbursed by our county. The procedure was meticulously enforced. </p>
<p>If you want to sign up for a community college course in MD, it’s no big deal if you have a place to hang your hat in MD–you can easily get state residency prices. You go to UMD at College Park, and they are very strict as to who gets the in state tuition, and it does entail a parent living in state.</p>
<p>Where I am, being “independent” financially means that the STUDENT is taking no money from the parent…NONE…and that includes rent, utilities, health insurance, car insurance, food money, clothing, college tuition (who is paying that?). It does not sound to me like you will meet the UCSD residency requirement BUT the only ones who really can give you this answer are the folks AT UCSD. You need to talk to them. They know their residency requirements.</p>
<p>Worse case scenerio…take the year off and work…until you are 24. That year of work and your residency in CA should make you an instate resident as a 24 year old independent student in CA. BUT even THAT should be checked with the UCSD folks.</p>
<p>Thanks for your replies everyone; as it appears it will be unlikely that I will get a residency change, we will cough up the money–she does intend on getting a job to indicate her change of residency however. I will call up UCSD and formally recognize my situation.</p>
<p>Wait a minute. You expect your retired mother to get a job so you can go to school and pay OOS rates? That’s >$50K/year… Glad you’re not my child. We’d have a different meeting of the minds.</p>
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<p>No, that is not what the OP said. Mother will get a job in California for purposes of establishing California residency . . . which the OP is hoping will eventually (not this year) help him to establish residency himself.</p>
<p>Actually it is what the OP said:
And it seems from this that residency changes can’t be made while a student is in school. [How</a> to Change Your Nonresident Status to Resident](<a href=“http://students.ucsd.edu/finances/fees/residence/status-change.html]How”>How to Apply for a Change of Classification)</p>
<p>It MAY be that the residency can be changed once MOM has been a resident of CA for one year, taxes, driver’s license, voting, bank, health insurance, etc.</p>
<p>^ But NOT if the student is over 18 when it happens. I think that rule primarily applies to minors.</p>
<p>"Moves to or from California</p>
<p>A student who is a minor (under age 18 by the RDD) with a California resident parent and moves to California to begin residing with that parent prior to his or her 18th birthday, may be eligible for classification as a resident for tuition purposes."</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/minors.htm[/url]”>http://www.registrar.ucla.edu/residence/minors.htm</a></p>
<p>I am pretty sure you have to be a minor when your parent establishes residency in Califonria. As an adult you have to establish your own residency.</p>
<p>“Your residence cannot be derived from your spouse or from your parents unless you are a minor.”</p>
<p><a href=“http://registrar.ucsf.edu/registration/residency[/url]”>http://registrar.ucsf.edu/registration/residency</a></p>
<p>Ultimately the OP should contact the school to talk through all of this. Their interpretation is what counts.</p>