<p>We’ll see if your lying. Most of us have already sent in complains and direct links to NYU stern and USC. Good luck.</p>
<p>Boo. I at least expected, “SORRY! That was my evil cousin who typed all of that!”</p>
<p>I didn’t know that FERPA BLOCK “it actuality” works. Thank goodness for this topic.</p>
<p>And I sent an email to the Pres, and VPO of national clearinghouse, with a link to this thread. It won’t be too long before they contact CC to get the IP address of Trojantransfer, and then his goose will likely be cooked, regardless of the college he said he is transferring to.</p>
<p>For one thing, I think its ridiculous that TrojanTransfer19 is trying to lie about his past just to get into a good school. Also trying to promote your tactics is just really sick, and not in a good way. Now I can’t even tell if you’re just some looney person trying to gain attention or if you’re really serious, but either way I know you’re going about things all wrong. If you’re being serious then all I can say is that Karma will come back and bite you, no denying that. Who knows if now you’re just trying to cover for your lies because you don’t want to risk your future, but its going to happen soon enough anyway. You can continue to defend yourself, but most people on this board will disagree with you. </p>
<p>I hope in the future you will learn from your mistakes and be more truthful, nothing good comes out from lying in the end.</p>
<p>I believe america is THE land of opportunity and that it is not just a myth.
if a high school dropout can attend a prestigious college by attending CC for a few years, or someone who graduated high school with ~ 2.0 GPA can get into a tier 1 college. why can’t someone who received poor grades in his/her first year of college ALSO be given the same opportunity? now i dont necessarily agree with how trojantransfer19 dealt with his situation and i definitely do not agree with the way he is promoting it, but honestly guys, you guys are all just angry because he/she got into schools YOU GUYS, by “telling the truth” wasn’t able to get into.</p>
<p>not trying to defend transfer19 or anything but thats life. ITS NOT FAIR. i’m sure most people who has income in the top 1% bracket did not do it legitimately. and if you can say you’ve never cheated in your life, EVER. then you can totally just ignore my post. since you are, well, quite godly and everyone should bow at your greatness.</p>
<p>No, actually I’m just angry in the manner in which he went about handling this situation. I actually gave him kudos and wished him the best in his actions. What made me angry is the way he handled it, especially recommending other fellow transfer students to follow suit.</p>
<p>message from the jerk to me.</p>
<p>lets put a smile on that face </p>
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<p>alright look bi/tch, u clearly haven’t read the FERPA rights and the block or either you got to many dicks in your face. there are various FERPA block/restriction rights with each college but everyone of them contain more blocks than others. at the end they do exactly what they are planned to do which is to keep confidentiality and privacy.</p>
<p>since most of you guys are delusional and are just making things up thinking you know things. the csu records will hold steady forever. yes, i said forever. until i feel like petitioning a unblock on my record to relinquish my FERPA block on my csu which is never going to happen. in the end, usc won’t be able to see anything. so consequences, are just not gonna happen. roflcopter</p>
<p>i love how i can just visit both threads and see that you guys are so mad. LOL</p>
<p>don’t worry, depending on how you guys make me feel for the next past days… which i hope you still keep the thread alive. i’ll actually tell the truth.</p>
<p>do you guys seriosuly believe that a real person that would get away with all this would post everything that would lead back to him?</p>
<p>don’t worry though i’ll send a pm to someone about the truth in very small detail though and they’ll choose what they’ll do with it.</p>
<p>i’m looking forward for you to copying and pasting this. HhAaHaAHhaAHahAHahAa </p>
<p>im postin it as promised trojantransfer19… clearly he’s a jerk =)</p>
<p>Awww, he has to “confess” to someone via PM. He’s obviously really stressed with being wrong and in his own little way, “confessing” is his way to redeem himself. Obviously, he couldn’t confess then and there because he couldn’t think of a way out, but after a little time stewing, he’ll at least give us a laugh.</p>
<p>Trojantransfer it is obvious the guy is lying. Otherwise he wouldn’t be insecure to keep posting through other people’s accounts. We already reported you to NYU and USC.</p>
<p>I know. Just saying that he’s trying to get out by pretending like he doesn’t exist. In all honesty, I think I launched him in that direction because I kept laughing at him. It’s a way to cope with his delusional self. The FERPA BLOCK defense is failing, and he knows it, and he’s gonna go down “fighting.”</p>
<p>This guy may actually have gotten away with it. There are over 3k schools in the US to petition each and every school for information concerning one student is not only costly but time consuming. Therefore, I doubt any university would put forth the effort.</p>
<p>The only way they could find out is if he had a prior government student loan, or by googling him. There are steps one can take to protect their privacy.
- Ferpa block
- No loans
- Do not make public past colleges of attendance i.e. facebook, online forums
- attend an institution which does not receive federal funding</p>
<p>You should realize also that you have the right to request who viewed your academic records thereby eliminating the guessing game as to if you have been caught.</p>
<p>There are more steps but I will not list them for obvious reasons. Read and be informed:
[US</a> CODE: Title 20,1232g. Family educational and privacy rights](<a href=“http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/20/1232g.html]US”>http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/20/1232g.html)</p>
<p>I don’t understand why everyone is trying to get this guy in trouble. He is just letting people know what he did and his results. Given it may be a risky thing to do, whoever takes his advice is responsible for their own decisions just like every adult out there. All of the sudden people want to play Mr and Ms Righteousness, but I’m sure any one wishing he gets caught is just angry that he got away with it. Instead of being angry, maybe you should open your minds and maybe try to understand that to this person, this was a miracle and a chance for him to progress himself. So go ahead and get him in trouble, so he can have a hard time making a living and maybe depend on government aid which comes out of your taxes. I hope you feel wonderful making someone else’s life a little harder. If he believes his system works, then let him! Sometimes a little belief is all it takes. To those that reported him for dishonesty, isn’t that a case about morality? If this is about morality, then when has it been morally correct to get someone in trouble because they didn’t conform to your beliefs and opinions. If he gets away with it, kudos to him. I did the same thing when I first started college and its never bit me back, and I graduated a semester ago. So don’t knock something just because you failed to think outside of the box. Remember, well behaved people rarely make history. Don’t be mean.</p>
<p>DoIt = TrojanTransfer19</p>
<p>@DoIt: LOL! No.</p>
<p>Most people get into college through an honest application.</p>
<p>@psydo- they don’t check with 3,000+ schools. They run a records check through the National Student Clearinghouse. All universities report enrollment to the clearinghouse, including dates of attendance. If a student withdraws from all of their classes, the effective date of withdrawal is posted on the clearinghouse data. If a student stays enrolled throughout the semester, the dates of attendance show up on the clearinghouse check. Because of this, even if transfer19 claims to have withdrawn from the courses and not received a grade, his dates of attendance will disclose that he did, in fact, attend the entire semester.</p>
<p>Additionally, it is difficult for the admissions office to verify information on 10,000+ applications, and it is still difficult to check on 2,500 admitted students, but once the 1,500 or so admitted students officially enroll, it is easy for the admissions office to pull up the student records and conduct a final verification. This is the phase in which most liars, embellishers, and scum-bags are caught. The beauty of it is, by the time they get caught and have their offers rescinded, it is too late for them to accept on offer from another school. In addition, the information is reported to the National Student Clearinghouse, where it becomes a permanent part of the student’s record.</p>
<p>As for FERPA, this guy obviously has no clue as to what he’s talking about. Here’s the section on disclosing academic history. You will notice is says “without parent consent”. This clause obviously applies to minors. Also, you will notice that it says records cannot be withheld from institutions in which the student plans to enroll in or transfer to (again, there is a clause regarding parental consent - I’m sure this gentleman is over 18). Finally, FERPA does not apply to educational institutions or school officials that have a legitimate educational interest (e.g., admissions officials). Scroll down to the asterisks (*****) for the most evident destruction of his entire argument.</p>
<p>Here’s an excerpt from a FERPA pamphlet:</p>
<p>Who has access to student educational records? According to FERPA, nondirectory information may not be released without prior written consent from the student. Exceptions are listed in the General Information catalog; they include access by appropriate university administrators, faculty members, or staff members who require access to educational records in order to perform their legitimate educational duties; officials of other schools in which the student seeks or intends to enroll; and in connection with a student’s application for, or receipt of, financial aid.</p>
<p>Here’s the section that covers records:</p>
<p>(b) Release of education records; parental consent requirement; exceptions; compliance with judicial orders and subpoenas; audit and evaluation of federally-supported education programs; recordkeeping
(1) No funds shall be made available under any applicable program to any educational agency or institution which has a policy or practice of permitting the release of education records (or personally identifiable information contained therein other than directory information, as defined in paragraph (5) of subsection (a) of this section) of students without the written consent of their parents to any individual, agency, or organization, other than to the following—
(A) other school officials, including teachers within the educational institution or local educational agency, who have been determined by such agency or institution to have legitimate educational interests, including the educational interests of the child for whom consent would otherwise be required;
(B) officials of other schools or school systems in which the student seeks or intends to enroll, upon condition that the student’s parents be notified of the transfer, receive a copy of the record if desired, and have an opportunity for a hearing to challenge the content of the record; </p>
<p>And here’s information pulled directly from the federal government FERPA website (scroll down to the bottom, and you will notice that a student cannot block access to their records when they apply to a new school):</p>
<p>§ 99.31 Under what conditions is prior consent not required to disclose information?
top</p>
<p>(a) An educational agency or institution may disclose personally identifiable information from an education record of a student without the consent required by §99.30 if the disclosure meets one or more of the following conditions:</p>
<p>(1)(i)(A) The disclosure is to other school officials, including teachers, within the agency or institution whom the agency or institution has determined to have legitimate educational interests.</p>
<p>(B) A contractor, consultant, volunteer, or other party to whom an agency or institution has outsourced institutional services or functions may be considered a school official under this paragraph provided that the outside party—</p>
<p>( 1 ) Performs an institutional service or function for which the agency or institution would otherwise use employees;</p>
<p>( 2 ) Is under the direct control of the agency or institution with respect to the use and maintenance of education records; and</p>
<p>( 3 ) Is subject to the requirements of §99.33(a) governing the use and redisclosure of personally identifiable information from education records.</p>
<p>(ii) An educational agency or institution must use reasonable methods to ensure that school officials obtain access to only those education records in which they have legitimate educational interests. An educational agency or institution that does not use physical or technological access controls must ensure that its administrative policy for controlling access to education records is effective and that it remains in compliance with the legitimate educational interest requirement in paragraph (a)(1)(i)(A) of this section.</p>
<p><strong><em>(2) The disclosure is, subject to the requirements of §99.34, to officials of another school, school system, or institution of postsecondary education where the student seeks or intends to enroll, or where the student is already enrolled so long as the disclosure is for purposes related to the student’s enrollment or transfer.</em></strong></p>
<p>@DOIT - Are you really giving this guy props? People like him don’t change. Yeah, he may have had a lousy first semester, but so did I. I had a 1.8 my first semester, and I told USC exactly what happened. I also proved myself worthy by earning 60 units in my last 3 semesters with a 4.0 GPA. And guess what? USC accepted me with no conditions and no SGR. There’s a right way and a wrong way to do things, and this gentleman obviously hasn’t figured that out. Let’s hope he does before he makes it out into the professional world.</p>
<p>“Yeah, he may have had a lousy first semester, but so did I. I had a 1.8 my first semester, and I told USC exactly what happened. I also proved myself worthy by earning 60 units in my last 3 semesters with a 4.0 GPA. And guess what? USC accepted me with no conditions and no SGR. There’s a right way and a wrong way to do things, and this gentleman obviously hasn’t figured that out.”
Airborne
Bravo! and welcome to the Trojan family! What you did is what many of us were trying to get the OP to do- Show USC that he has learned from his mistakes[ the low first semester GPA at CSU Fullerton] and that he can make it in college.</p>
<p>Menloparkmom, I dropped out of my first year at college. Worked my tail off and made it to USC. I didn’t have to lie on my application to attend my dream school.</p>
<p>@airborne911 </p>
<p>You cannot look up information through the clearinghouse just by an applicants SSN, DOB, or NAME. You must know that he attended a particular school. For example, you would enter Jon Doe
I am an education professional and I have consent
USC</p>
<p>to gain academic records information for John Doe at USC. The service also charges per a school or hit and not per an applicant. </p>
<p>@OP</p>
<p>Good luck, god speed and don’t ***** up this time around</p>
<p>@psydo - You are mistaken, my friend. I attended two schools in spring 2006, but I forgot all about the second school (I only took one class there, and the rest of my classes were taken at the first school). I did not list the school on my application. USC sent me a request for transcripts from the second school in April. I called the admissions office to inform them that I simply forgot about the second school I attended. The lady on the other end of the phone said, “That’s okay. That’s what the National Student Clearinghouse is for.” She then told me to send a detailed letter explaining why I didn’t list the second school on my application, because omitting information is grounds for automatic rejection. I explained what happened in a letter, and I ordered a rush copy of my transcripts. It worked out for me, but I am living proof that USC cross-checks applicants through the clearinghouse. There is no way they would have known I attended the second institution otherwise.</p>
<p>For future reference, be sure to fact-check information before you attempt to raise a counter-argument.</p>
<p>@psydo - Read Step 1 Row 2 in the link below. You will notice that the Social Security Number of an applicant is used in pending admissions queries for students seeking to enroll in an institution. It is right there in black and white. If you wish, you can research the topic on your own.</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/colleges/Tracker/pdfs/ST_flatfile_layout.pdf[/url]”>http://www.studentclearinghouse.org/colleges/Tracker/pdfs/ST_flatfile_layout.pdf</a></p>
<p>Th fact of the matter is, you cannot hide your prior academic history from institutions who use the clearinghouse. They found my mistake easily. I disclosed no information on my application that would have led them to beleive that I attended a school not listed on my application.</p>