<p>Hello College Confidential!</p>
<p>I am a sophomore at Irvine Valley College hoping to transfer to the EECS program at Cal. I have a couple questions. First would be: what general ed requirements does the College of Engineering have? Since they do not accept IGETC as a GE path, there has to be an alternative standard that they have. </p>
<p>Second, is it possible to take all the required classes in the EECS program after transferring 80-85 units? I'm worried about running into a unit cap and not being able to complete my degree.</p>
<p>Thanks guys!
~gowireless</p>
<p>GE requirements: 6 classes total. 2 english (take before transferring), two from the same department (series requirement), 2 upper division (after transfer). You also need an AC class (after transferring). You can use one class to fill multiple requirements, but you’ll still need 6+ total.</p>
<p>Full explanation: [Humanities</a> and Social Sciences (H/SS) Requirement ? UC Berkeley College of Engineering](<a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/requirements/hum-ss-requirement]Humanities”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/requirements/hum-ss-requirement)</p>
<p>Basically, take the required english classes, and an additional two transferable humanities if you can. After transferring you can use one upper div to fill the series requirement, and the other to fill AC, if efficiency is your main concern.</p>
<p>You should be focusing more on pre-reqs than GE though. Check assist.org for what you’re expected to complete. (You should take discrete math and basic CS courses at your CC even if they don’t articulate, btw.)</p>
<p>Units: You’re capped at 70 units transferred in. You’ll still get subject credit for everything you’ve completed, and all your classes will factor into GPA, but in terms of the number of units you can transfer in, it’s 70. This is to force students to stay for 2 years, essentially. Either way, don’t worry about it, there are tons of EECS transfers. You’ll need to do a fair bit of planning and some gross schedules to make everything fit, but you’re guaranteed 2 years here, and can petition for a fifth semester if you want it. If you’re really worried about time, summer session is a wonderful thing, especially for catching up on 61ABC.</p>
<p>[ASSIST</a> Report: IRVINE 13-14 UCB GE/Breadth Articulation Agreement](<a href=“http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=21&dir=1&sia=IRVINE&ria=UCB&ia=IRVINE&oia=UCB&aay=13-14&ay=13-14&dora=AMCULT]ASSIST”>http://web1.assist.org/web-assist/report.do?agreement=aa&reportPath=REPORT_2&reportScript=Rep2.pl&event=21&dir=1&sia=IRVINE&ria=UCB&ia=IRVINE&oia=UCB&aay=13-14&ay=13-14&dora=AMCULT) indicates that no IVC course covers the AC breadth requirement, so you need to take it after transfer (can be one of the two upper division H/SS courses that you need to take after transfer).</p>
<p>Before transfer, it is best to take the English composition courses (WR 1 and WR 2 at IVC) and two H/SS courses in subjects that you would want to take upper division H/SS courses in, to give you maximum flexibility in choosing such courses after transfer.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, IVC has none of CS 61A, 61B, 61C, 70, or EE 20N, 40, according to [ASSIST</a> Report](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST) .</p>
<p>You can cover CS 61B with the following at nearby community colleges:</p>
<p>Orange Coast: CS A200 and A250
Golden West: CS G145
Fullerton: CSCI 133F</p>
<p>[ASSIST</a> Report](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST)
[ASSIST</a> Report](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST)
[ASSIST</a> Report](<a href=“Welcome to ASSIST”>Welcome to ASSIST)</p>
<p>Thank you both for replying! Based off what you’ve said, I already have a good portion of what I need. I’m taking basic CS classes this semester and next semester, and probably discrete math next fall when I finish up multivariable, linear algebra, and differential equations. </p>
<p>How stringent are the GPA expectations for EECS transfer students? I expect my GPA should be fine when I apply, but I’m just wondering what I should shoot for to be safe.</p>
<p>4.0 is a good target to shoot for.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, UC Statfinder is no longer available. But when it was up, high chance of transfer admission to Berkeley engineering was generally for those with 3.8-4.0 prior college GPA.</p>
<p>UCLA has stats on its own web site: [Profile</a> of Admitted Transfer Students - UCLA Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof.htm]Profile”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof.htm) . Average GPA of transfer admits to most engineering majors has recently been 3.8 or higher.</p>
<p>Is your interest mainly EE or CS?</p>
<p>If CS, consider L&S CS at Berkeley – that can allow you more schedule space after transfer because you can use IGETC to fulfill L&S breadth requirements (though you would still need to take one AC course) and L&S CS requires only one of EE 20N, 40, or 42 for graduation (instead of both 20N and 40 that EECS requires).</p>
<p>That’s what I figured. I’ve got about a 3.6 right now, but that’s from classes taken at IVC while in high school. Now that I’m full-time at IVC, I’m expecting that to go up to a 3.8 or 3.9.</p>
<p>To be honest I’m interested in both, but mainly CS. The main thing that’s hindering me from taking L&S CS is the fact that it’s a B.A instead of a B.S. From what I’ve heard, a B.S is far more useful in the industry. Am I right in that analysis?</p>
<p>Employers don’t differentiate between BA vs BS, especially in software industry. They care way more about the classes you took (CS 61 series, upper div courses in CS, etc) and projects you’ve done.</p>
<p>The main advantage of doing EECS is that it exposes you BOTH hardware and software. Thus, you could arguably have a broader field of job choices after graduation than pure CS.</p>
<p>BA vs. BS does not really matter for a CS major from Berkeley going into CS employment, unless you want to take the patent exam, in which case the ABET accreditation of the EECS major matters.</p>
<p>If you do want to take the patent exam from an L&S CS background, you may want to include the courses specified in pages 4-6 (III.B.iv and III.B.x particularly) of <a href=“http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/GRB_March_2012.pdf[/url]”>http://www.uspto.gov/ip/boards/oed/GRB_March_2012.pdf</a></p>