Transfering from CSU and CC?

<p>Background information:
I did relatively well in High School, I had a 3.5 overall academic gpa and got admitted into UCI, UCSB, UCSC, and UCR. However since my parents wanted me to stay within the area. I went to SFSU, my major is business administration. I wanted to go to UC Berkeley or Davis but I did not get accepted.</p>

<p>Currently:
I am taking 12 units at SFSU and taking 9 units at a CCC. I could not sign up for the classes I wanted to first semester due the school being impacted. However I decided to take classes as well. I already have 10 units from prior summer CCC classes and a 4.0 College gpa of those 10 units.</p>

<p>My Question:
I want to try applying to UC Davis or UC Berkeley from SFSU after 2 years. I understand that I have the lowest chances applying from a CSU but can I apply from the CCC instead? My problem is that Im taking some Transfer eligibility requirements like English at the CSU but if I wanted to show the UC I took the course would that mean I'd have to show the my CSU transcript. Would they consider me a CCC transfer or a CSU transfer if I decide to take classes at the CCC for all 4 semesters prior transfer?</p>

<p>My possible solutions?
I have considered dropping out of SFSU after the first year and go full time CCC. Or perhaps if I can be classified as a CCC transfer I will go along with what I am doing. Or if it might be possible to transfer my SFSU courses to my CCC transcript? </p>

<p>I'm not sure what I should do if I should stay in SFSU and the CCC or full time CCC. My objective is to go to Haas at Berkeley or an Econ degree at Davis or my last choice is just 3 years at SFSU then go for my MBA at Berkeley.</p>

<p>Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.</p>

<p>Thanks!</p>

<p>if you drop out of the CSU, you’ll almost certainly get into at least one UC.</p>

<p>plan on applying to them all though just to be safe. You main focus should be on getting high grades and fulfilling prereqs.</p>

<p>that said, if you intend to get an MBA note a few things.
High GPA helps but it isn’t vital(grades will keep you out but not get you in) Haas has around a 3.5 average GPA to get in. You will have a higher GPA from CSUF than a UC in all likelihood.</p>

<p>prestige helps get you a real job though. People want someone from a top university. Work experience matters for getting into a solid MBA program.</p>

<p>You would definitely have to submit your SFSU transcript as part of your application even if you did not care if none of the courses you took there were transferable to a UC. You must submit a transcript from every school attended whether the courses are transferable or not. This site is littered with posts from CCC students who have had their UC admissions for Fall 2010 rescinded this summer by the UC for failing to submit all transcripts, in some cases not submitting transcripts from a CCC where they had enrolled in just one class and dropped it without receiving a grade. Even if you transferred your SFSU courses to your CCC transcript you would still need to submit a certified copy of your SFSU transcript to UCB or UCD.</p>

<p>Whether you would be currently considered a CSU student taking classes part time at a CCC, giving you the lowest priority as a transfer student to a UC, or a CCC student taking classes part time at a CSU, which would give you highest preference, is a technical question that would probably have to be addressed to the admissions offices at UCD and UCB.</p>

<p>@Xelink
So I was thinking I’d drop out after my freshman year at SFSU if I maintain that 4.0 average or stay remotely high(above 3.8) and go to a full time CCC prior transfer. How would I tell them that I dropped out of SFSU just to go to a CCC and transfer into a UC? How would that work?</p>

<p>@Lemaitre1
The big question is, if I were to say make myself a full time CCC student and a part time CSU student just for completing more units. How would I differentiate myself from the opposite? By taking more units at the CCC and less at the CSU? How would I tell the UCs that? Although it seems unfair if I wasa full time CCC and part time CSU, I’m not sure if I should drop out of the CSU unless I have a great shot at transfering to the UC I wanted.</p>

<p>Opening Q’s</p>

<p>How do I drop from a CSU and go full time CCC? Leave on what terms?</p>

<p>If I were to drop the CSU and didn’t get into the UC I wanted to get in or any at all lets assume… What’d my next step?</p>

<p>How much does CSU cost you to attend? I’m assuming you could drop from a CSU and go full time CCC with the explanation that you can’t justify the cost of staying at the CSU.</p>

<p>My CCC had TAG programs with all UCs except Berkeley and UCLA (guaranteed transfer if you meet the minimum GPA requirement, major pre-requisites, and IGETC). I’m assuming all CCCs have TAG but I could be wrong so you’ll want to consult a councilor at your CCC. If you enroll in and complete your CCCs honors program, you can also apply as a TAP transfer to UCLA (priority admissions over non-TAP). You’ll want to confirm all these facts with your CCC because I’m not sure if all CCCs have TAG and TAP agreements.</p>

<p>@Comaprison</p>

<p>If I were to do that how would I transfer my courses from the CSU to the CCC to show I’ve taken the pre-reqs? Or do I need to retake some courses?</p>

<p>When you apply to the UC, submit 2 transcripts. 1 from your CCC and 1 from your CSU.</p>

<p>How does that differentiate me from being a CCC student over a CSU student?</p>

<p>Not sure it really even matters. Just submit both transcripts when applying to UCs and see which ones say yes.</p>

<p>^That’s not exactly helpful. You just made admissions sound like playing russian roulette.</p>

<p>TryingToGoToUC, UCSD listed some criteria on their page. I would imagine Davis has something similar too. But to give you an idea:

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<p>Basically, you can be classified as a CCC student if you match the description above. Just be careful not to go over the unit cap since you’ve previously attended a 4-year.</p>

<p>You have pretty much no shot at Berkeley Haas if you’re not a CCC transfer, just to be honest. This is because they auto-deny anybody who hasn’t perfectly met every prerequisite, and the courses that you take at a CSU don’t articulate cleanly at UCB, so it’s neigh impossible that you’d meet every requirement. I went through this with a 4.0 and strong ECs from a CSU this past application cycle.</p>

<p>Furthermore, this also makes taking prerequisites at SFSU and then transferring to a CC a little dangerous. In a prime situation if you’re set on Haas you need to make sure you have written affirmation (Assist.org) that every course that you take articulates at UCB, which is available for CCCs but not CSUs.</p>

<p>I don’t really know much about UCD to be honest, but I’m assuming their requirements are much less stringent and you can probably transfer from SFSU with a 3.75+.</p>

<p>When I was applying to UCs from a CSU I called Haas and asked if they recommended me spending my sophomore year at a CCC instead of the CSU, and they said yes because it shows your dedication to the transfer. This is obviously a risk though, as you may end up being denied from all of your schools and stuck at the CC. If you have good grades though I wouldn’t worry too much about this if you’re truly set on transferring to a UC.</p>

<p>Finally, your questions:</p>

<p>“How do I drop from a CSU and go full time CCC? Leave on what terms?”</p>

<p>–You don’t pay your registration fees. It’s very easy, and nobody will ask questions because many people drop out of college for a wide variety of reasons every year. You can then send your transcripts to your CC in order to get credit for your SFSU courses at that CC.</p>

<p>“If I were to drop the CSU and didn’t get into the UC I wanted to get in or any at all lets assume… What’d my next step?”</p>

<p>–You would probably stay another year at the CC to improve your standing GPA and EC-wise so that you would be accepted to a UC or other university in the following application cycle.</p>

<p>@Bruingirl01</p>

<p>So If I stay on my current plan, which is to attend a minimal amount of units at the CSU and try to get most my units done at the CCC but stay like that for 2 years, can I qualify as a CCC student while still sending in my CSU transcript if I’ve done more at the CCC?</p>

<p>Would they count units that I’ve done at the CSU if they were not transferable? Do I get a choice on what they take?</p>

<p>Like Right now I do both CSU and CCC as I said and I think that might qualify me, in UCSD… but I guess I need more info on Davis or Haas.</p>

<p>@SanDiegoStateGuy</p>

<p>That’s why I plan to be enrolled at both the CCC and CSU but I want to know would they consider me as a CCC student? What I question about your cycle is that did you do both CCC and CSU at the same time? Also I called Haas earlier about fulfilling their pre-reqs and I cannot satisfy them by only going to SFSU thats why I take courses at the CCC as well, so I can ensure that I finish all the pre-reqs. But I want to be considered a CCC student to get the best chance.</p>

<p>New Questions: </p>

<p>Is it possible to TAG to Davis while attending at a CSU?</p>

<p>How can I be considered a CCC student if I attend both CSU and CCC for 2 years.</p>

<p>Also what happens if I past the 90 unit cap? Is there no more chance at xfers?</p>

<p>You have to be enrolled only in CCCs to be considered a CCC student. You can’t qualify for priority admission and CCC-only programs such as TAG while you’re a “current” student at a CSU, even though you might be taking community college classes simultaneously. If you want to get CCC priority, you can leave your CSU now while you still have a relatively low amount of units and enroll at a community college to fulfill the requirements.</p>

<p>They will only count transferable units. And nope, only they can determine which classes transfer. You can appeal some classes which they don’t consider though, but people only usually do this after they’re accepted to get subject credit.</p>

<p>Regarding your new questions:

  1. No, you can’t TAG with Davis while attending a CSU. TAG only works for CCC students.
  2. You can’t attend both a CCC and a CSU and still be considered a CCC student.
  3. Some schools automatically disqualify students who go over the unit cap during the admissions process. Plan carefully.</p>

<p>@Bruingirl</p>

<p>If I were to drop out of the CSU I’d only do after my first year to see if my gpa is still at the best it can be, 4.0 or maybe 3.8+. Would that still work? Or How would it conclude if I finish at 60 units for the CCC and 24 units for the CSU concluding at 84 units, can I transfer then as a CCC student?</p>

<p>Oh, and file TAG for Davis because you qualify. And please do some research of your own because most of us don’t really know all the ins and outs of your situation.</p>

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<p>Do you have to stay at the CSU the whole year? Davis can be a sure shot if you TAG because you qualify, but you have to be under 80 semester units. Haas is a little bleak, you’re better off asking a person from UCB admissions regarding your situation directly.</p>

<p>Thanks for your all your help Bruingirl01, lol. I am very greatful and appreciated that there are people like you that are out there to help younger not as knowledged candidates for trying to transfer. I would reward you if I could.</p>

<p>And yes, I’ve done research but I wanted to double check :P</p>

<p>I just wanted to stay at the CSU, just for safety precautions in case.</p>

<p>Are tags usually all accepted? or only a certain rate get in?</p>

<p>Also in your post so basically, in a nut shell it’s like I can be in the CSU and later go full time CCC on my 2nd year for the tag. Or should I stay at the CSU only 2nd year and make the tag?</p>

<p>@Bruingirl01</p>

<p>Also sorry to bother, but whats the “provisions of definition of a CCC student” on the Davis Tag criteria mean?</p>

<p>Glad to be of help. :)</p>

<p>TAGs are guarantees. You have to file the application in November like everyone else, but it’s more of a formality. You’re already in if you fulfill everything in the contract, no questions asked. Also, everyone who files a TAG and qualifies gets accepted.</p>

<p>I would not recommend prolonging your stay at a CSU if you’re dead set on transferring to a UC. Not all courses transfer to a UC, unlike in a CCC where articulation agreements are clear-cut. You wouldn’t have to worry about what transfers where since it’s all in ASSIST.</p>

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