<p>Since some of my stats are subpar (by junior GPA was really bad), I applied to CS in the Letters and Sciences department in the hope that I would at least get in. Luckily I did. If possible, I'd like to transfer to EECS in the department of Engineering. How difficult is this? I've been trying to look it up on the website, but all I can find when I type in transfer is info for Transfer Students, which is of course not what I'm looking for.</p>
<p>From the stories I hear, it's extremely easy to transfer from CoE out into L&S, but almost impossible to transfer from L&S into the CoE, not even taking into consideration the impacted nature of the EECS major.</p>
<p>It's relatively easy to transfer from CoE to L&S, although from what sakky says if you have below a 3.0 you have to apply and you may not get in, so you may be stuck in engineering. To transfer from L&S to CoE...I wouldn't say it's impossible. The hardest majors in CoE to transfer into are EECS, Bioengineering, and engineering undeclared. You can apply for the transfer every year on or before February 15th. Most people apply 2nd year because they have more coursework to show. They're looking that you will have finished at least most of your prereqs for your intended major (in this case EECS), that you've gotten good grades in your prereqs (around 3.5 is the cut-off for EECS), and they'll require you to write a few short essay responses on why you want to transfer. It's definitely doable, and I've seen people get in (one friend got in as a freshman because he took 3 engineering courses 1st semester and 3 more 2nd semester while applying...I don't think you have to be this crazy).</p>
<p>vicissitudes, students cannot transfer into engineering undeclared, but everything else you provided is good.</p>
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<p>Hey, it's not what * I * am saying. Rather, it's an explicit rule of L&S.</p>
<p>"Please note: Grade Point Average is also a significant consideration for admission to the College. Students who meet all other criteria and have a 3.0 or higher GPA are more likely to be approved."</p>
<p>Trust me, it's * very easy * to find yourself having substantially below a 3.0 GPA if you're an engineering student. I've seen it countless times.</p>
<p>i was accepted to bioengineering and am considering transferring to some other biology major. is this possible?</p>
<p>Would it be easier to Major in L&S:CS then Minor in CoE:EECS?
<a href="http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/eecsminor.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.eecs.berkeley.edu/Programs/eecsminor.html</a></p>
<p>cppdev:</p>
<p>Absolutely not.</p>
<p>Majoring in L&S CS is the same as majoring in EECS with a focus on CS, minus a few engineering requirements (but with the addition of some L&S breadth requirements). CS and EECS involve a lot of work.</p>
<p>You mentioned that you are very interested in CS. Why would you minor in EECS when you can major in CS (or EECS, if you get in)?</p>
<p>Apparently the number of students majoring in CS now is below 1994 levels, and less than half of what was during the peak of the dot com boom. They are considering lifting the impaction designation for CS.</p>
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vicissitudes, students cannot transfer into engineering undeclared, but everything else you provided is good.
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<p>Sorry about that, they keep telling you that those three are the hardest to get into as a freshman. To transfer into CoE from L&S the most difficult major is probably EECS and then BioE.</p>
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Hey, it's not what I am saying. Rather, it's an explicit rule of L&S.</p>
<p>"Please note: Grade Point Average is also a significant consideration for admission to the College. Students who meet all other criteria and have a 3.0 or higher GPA are more likely to be approved."</p>
<p>Trust me, it's very easy to find yourself having substantially below a 3.0 GPA if you're an engineering student. I've seen it countless times.
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<p>Ooo thanks for the link. I couldn't find it for a while and I didn't want to explicitly say that if you're below a 3.0 due to L&S policy you may not get in.</p>
<p>@ calstudent's post
Good point. I'm not sure I understood what the minor exactly was - I thought I could major in CS while minoring in EECS. Basically I'd like to focus on Option III of the EECS curriculum, the interaction between software and hardware (kinda around the red bar separating software from hardware on the diagram that was shown in the first class of 61C if you know what I mean). L&S: CS is a bit more theoretical than that.</p>
<p>Anyway, I think, if I can maintain a good GPA, getting in to CoE:EECS should be possible. I've already done all the Entry-level writing & History Stuff (got 5s on the AP tests), up to 61B (thanks to the Comp Sci AB AP test), and equivalents of Math 1A & 1B, Math 53 and Math 55 (Directly transferable from my community college according to assist.org). That should mean that I just have to take CS61C, EECS20N, EECS40, and Math 54, correct?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for reading all of this, it must be pretty boring for you, but it's so helpful for me!</p>
<p>cppdev, transferring into EECS is definitely possible.</p>
<p>however, some high school students underestimate the difficulty of college lower division courses. it's a whole new level of difficulty once you are here ;)</p>
<p>cppdev:</p>
<p>Whoops! I thought you were asking if majoring in L&S CS was easier than minoring in EECS. Instead, you were asking if you could do both? My bad.</p>
<p>Regarding getting into EECS:</p>
<p>You'll also need to take CS 61A. I've never heard of anyone passing out of that. You'd pass out of 61B, but not 61A, unless things have changed.</p>
<p>If you don't get into EECS, you'll probably need to take CS 70 (in addition to having passed out of Math 55), as it is a requirement for L&S CS. Unless your CC course is equivalent to that, as well?</p>
<p>As unlimitedx said, it's definetely possible.</p>
<p>@calstudent</p>
<p>Yeah, I should have said L&S:CS and Minor in EECS</p>
<p>But anyway, yeah, I checked and I do need to take CS61A (and CS70, if I can't transfer). Hopefully I'm not underestimating too much, but five courses in two semesters shouldn't be so hard. I took 8 units in CS at That Other School (from what I hear us Cal students are supposed to hate Stanford) last summer so I kinda know what to expect. So pretty much for now my questions are answered and my fears allayed - thanks for that. Now to look into housing...</p>
<p>Yeah, Professor Harvey, the CS61A instructor, said himself during one of the lectures last fall that the L&S CS major is no longer going to be capped.</p>
<p>@joe</p>
<p>What does that mean exactly?</p>
<p>@everyone</p>
<p>So I really want to major in Computer Science but I am not really interested in the Electrical Engineering aspect of EECS. I'm more interested in software, not hardware.</p>
<p>I've been accepted as a Freshman for Fall 2007. What I'm wondering is, if I plan on going onto receiving a masters and eventually a PhD in Comp Sci, is it really that big of a deal that I'm taking a B.A. not a B.S? The courses practically the same without the EE ones yea?</p>
<p>Also, I'm looking at the applying a major in CS at the college of L&S form and I'm not sure how I can take all of required classes while fulfilling necessities for L&S like Foreign Language and American History. Or do I have something wrong?</p>
<p>One last question, how many classes can I take per semester?</p>
<p>Thanks for all the help,</p>
<p>I really want to attend Berkeley but think I made a mistake but not applying directly for EECS and it may turn out that I'll attend Stanford's computer science program if I can't find answers to these questions.</p>
<p>Misha</p>