<p>I have ~2.9 GPA at an Ivy League university. Hate the school, and know that I need to transfer somehow else. My state school will take me, that's for sure, but what are my chances at other schools?</p>
<p>Would my low GPA, considering where it's from, look acceptable to a decent public school or non-ivy private school? What sort of window am I looking at for schools that will accept me?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>I would stick it out at this point, and get your Ivy piece of paper.</p>
<p>There is no guarantee that the next school will be any better for you.</p>
<p>Further, as someone who transferred into Cornell in my second year, I can tell you that it is difficult to make friends as a transfer student.</p>
<p>Everyone makes their friends the first year.</p>
<p>If you don’t want to stay where you are, you might consider applying to some top small liberal arts colleges.</p>
<p>A 2.9 is respectable. So, for example, I would presume that a Bowdoin or a Wesleyan would recognize that a person with a 2.9 gpa at an Ivy is qualified to be at their school.</p>
<p>Also, there were no doubt one of two schools you got into, but turned down, when you first applied to college. </p>
<p>They would seem to be likely candidates.</p>
<p>Perhaps you should disclose your reason for wanting to transfer, so people can give you more precise advice.</p>
<p>I’m transferring for a mixture of personal and social reasons. I never wanted to go to the Ivy in the first place, but was pressured into doing so by my parents. I’m not a fan of the school, I don’t fit in very well socially, and all in all regret going here in the first place.</p>
<p>My #1 pick for a new school is my state school - I took a class there last summer, and enjoyed the environment. It’s closer to home, and I know or are friends with hundreds of people that go there. It’s the school I wanted to go to from the get go, and it would be mostly paid for by transfer and in-state scholarships.</p>
<p>At the same time though, I’m aware that that would be a huge step down in terms of prestige (my state school isn’t top-tier public).</p>
<p>I got in and turned down Georgetown and Notre Dame, do you think those are viable options too?</p>
<p>What is your planned major?
Is this your first year?</p>
<p>Is the GPA the main reason for your transfer?</p>
<p>You might be a bit late to the process if you have not started paperwork already for the other top private schools.</p>
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<p>Out of reach as a transfer with a 2.9.</p>
<p>I’m a pre-med student and this is my second year. GPA isn’t the main reason but it’s definitely a consideration. I think, realistically speaking, if I want to go to med school then my best shot is to go to the state school and excel there. I just can’t compete at the Ivy league level in my pre-med classes, and my current GPA, even from an ivy, won’t get me into medical school.</p>
<p>"my current GPA, even from an ivy, won’t get me into medical school. "</p>
<p>This is definitely true. Is your science GPA any better? </p>
<p>You do want to go to an easier school than well known private schools. You also need to take lot more courses to improve your GPA, probably do an extra year of college.</p>
<p>Finish what you started. Get your grades up to at least a 3.2, get a good job and then find the happiness that you’re looking for. Sorry I forgot you’re an ivy leaguer-Make it the happiness for which you are looking. GL.</p>
<p>Pre-med student with a 2.9 GPA? No you’re not. Even if you get 4.0 for the next two years it won’t happen. </p>
<p>Look at this:
<a href=“http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/downloads/gpamcat.pdf[/url]”>http://www.washington.edu/uaa/advising/downloads/gpamcat.pdf</a></p>
<p>This chart is a much better indicator but it all depends on OP’s home state public med school stats.</p>
<p><a href=“https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf[/url]”>https://www.aamc.org/download/157450/data/table24-mcatgpagridall2008-10.pdf.pdf</a></p>
<p>It will likely be more competitive by the time he gets there. I didn’t know that average students with a 3.0-3.2 GPA have a 30% acceptance rate.</p>
<p>I’m from an underserved part of the US that’s part of the University of Washington School of Medicine’s WWAMI program, and my state has around a ~30% acceptance rate so hopefully I will still have a chance of going to med school, even if it takes an extra year to re-take some science classes and/or improve my application.</p>
<p>You could technically do HPME program at Northwestern at that GPA requirement. </p>
<p>Some of those numbers are skewed since we dont know which schools and what programs they might have come from. There are programs in lots of state schools that have different requirements. Texas has several disadvantaged groups combined medical programs where the requirements are not very high to move onto medical school. Some programs may have automatic admission for some basic requirements. </p>
<p>OTOH, if OP is from California, it is hard to get into state schools with 4.0/36. Medical school admissions are very uneven and differ widely by state.</p>
<p>Interesting that you want to transfer out of an Ivy while so many students want to transfer in (or just get in at all). This is a good warning for all those future med school want to be’s. Good Luck!</p>
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<p>I thought HPME was only for entering fr:</p>
<p>[Frequently</a> Asked Questions : Education: Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern University](<a href=“http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/education/degree-programs/hpme/faqs.html]Frequently”>http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/education/degree-programs/hpme/faqs.html)</p>
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<p>The OP isn’t from CA because they’re in WWAMI.</p>
<p>OP, if your IS pubic is your #1 pick and will help pick up your gpa, that seems like the best option to me. Below a small handful of colleges (none of which you would be in contention to transfer to with your current gpa), where you attend is not going to matter compared to your gpa, mcat and ECs/research/volunteering.</p>
<p>entomom - I am referring to moving on to medical school from undergrad. From your link:</p>
<p>What are the undergraduate program requirements for HPME students?
HPME students are required to take a sequence of science courses in Chemistry, Biology and Physics that will prepare them for the academic demands of medical school. HPME students entering Northwestern in fall 2012 and earlier must also fulfill GPA requirements in their science courses (3.2 or above) and overall academic courses (3.0 or above). HPME students entering Northwestern in fall 2013 and later must also fulfill GPA requirements in their science courses (3.2 or above) and overall academic courses (3.4 or above). </p>
<p>Essentially I assume AAMC is tracking all GPAs and MCATs getting into medical school and we are discussing how one can make it to med school with 3.0 to 3.2 GPA.</p>
<p>What exactly is WWAMI?</p>
<p>^But HPME is NUs BA/MD program, it’s not their regular MD program:</p>
<p><a href=“MD Education: MD Education: Feinberg School of Medicine: Northwestern University”>http://www.feinberg.northwestern.edu/education/prospective-students/index.html</a></p>
<p>NUs Feinberg SOM is a top 20 med school and will require much more than a 3.0-3.2 gpa for the regular MD program.</p>
<p>WWAMI stands for the states of: WA, WY, AK, MT & ID. Other than WA, these states don’t have med schools, so UDub has an agreement with them and accepts a certain proportion of their class from these states:</p>
<p>[WWAMI</a> Program | UW Medicine, Seattle](<a href=“http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/wwami/pages/default.aspx]WWAMI”>http://www.uwmedicine.org/education/wwami/pages/default.aspx)</p>
<p>If you look at the IS/OOS data for UDub, admission for OOS looks relatively high, but that’s because it’s predominantly from these states. Outside of the WWAMI applicants, they only take a handful of candidates who are either economically or academically underserved or who have shown dedication to working with underserved communities.</p>
<p>Feinberg is a top 20 school and HPME is one of the hardest prorams to get into at the undergrad level but they are always knocked for having one of the lowest GPA requirements for moving on to med school once you get into the program. </p>
<p>We are trying to see how one can get 3.0 to 3.2 GPA and still get into medical school. The question is if an undergrad from HPME met the minimum requirements to get into their medical school as outlined which is 3.2 GPA, would those numbers be reflected in AAMC tracker (I think we can probably take it to med forum)? I was assuming an YES when I was responding earlier.</p>
<p>WashU requires 3.8 GPA and 36 MCAT to make it medical school. Comparatively, NU makes it pretty easy.</p>
<p>My LizzyM spreadsheet shows average sci & cumm gpas for NU as: 3.74 & 3.79, respectively. Accounting for HPME students that may enter with lower gpas would raise the averages to some degree.</p>
<p>You may be right about LizzyM entomom. I am not suggesting students enter with bare minimum 3.2 but having such a low threshold of entry makes it harder to push kids to do their best during undergrad and work for 3.8+ GPAs. </p>
<p>There were threads around on CC in the past that some of the students entering via HPME at Feinberg are not as always well accomplished when compared to direct admits (some of them are coming with PhDs). It may be that many don’t have much time to do a lot in 3 years, and since they don’t need MCAT, may not prepare as hard in undergrad. </p>
<p>I am glad to see they are raising the minimum overall GPA to 3.4 starting in 2013.</p>