transfers

<p>I know Harvard doesn't take transfers. but what about Yale? I was thinkin of maybe doin 1 or 2 years at the University of Michigan, maintain excellent grades, then try to transfer into Yale. Would that be a good idea, if Yale does take transfers?</p>

<p>It probably wouldn’t be a good idea, because while Yale does still accept transfers, they accept <em>very</em> few. Like, waaaaay lower percentages of transfer acceptances than freshmen. Plus, there’s no guarantee that they’ll still be accepting transfers in two years.</p>

<p>The admit rate is about 2 percent.</p>

<p>You haven’t even applied anywhere yet and you’re already planning on transferring??</p>

<p>You might try looking at the Y website or using the Search function here on CC as the information you asked for can easily be found on both.</p>

<p>As far as transferring after 1 year, if you weren’t a competitive applicant to Y as a freshman, the chance of that is slim. You will have completed only 1 sem at UM when you submit your application to transfer to Y, therefore your HS record and test scores will be given much more weight than what you’ve done in college. Couple that with a substantially lower acceptance rate for transfers, you get the picture.</p>

<p>Transfer stats for fall 2009: 18 (including 3 Intl) accepted out of about 900 applicants.</p>

<p>yale is quite the reach for me. UMich is almost a safe bet for though.</p>

<p>What about transferring after my sophomore year, with 3 semesters under my belt?</p>

<p>Like entomom said, will you be a viable candidate even as an incoming freshman? That’s the best predictor of any sort of chance at transfer admission. But given the two percent accept rate, one can’t count on anything. If I may ask, why aren’t you applying as a Freshman yourself?</p>

<p>I didn’t say that I wasn’t going to apply to Yale. I was referring the the fact that I will likely get rejected from Yale. Am I a viable candidate? I’m a lock for U-Mich, the top public school in the nation, so I think Yale would at least give me a 2nd look. That’s why I’m pondering maybe acing UMich for 2 years, then transferring.</p>

<p>Any advice T26E4?</p>

<p>PM’s you offsite.</p>

<p>The acceptance rate for transfers is 2%. If you aren’t going to get into Yale as a freshman, frankly, you aren’t going to get into it as a transfer. Doing well at UMich is not going to make you a standout candidate, as all the other applicants will have done well at their various (and most likely more prestigious) schools.</p>

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<p>Competitive is different from viable. My definition of competitive is to be accepted or WL as a freshman applicant. Yes, UM is a top public, but the range of accepted candidates is extremely wide, particularly for MI residents. So given just that information, it’s difficult to say where you would fall in the Y applicant pool.</p>

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<p>As a jr transfer with an excellent college record (gpa, coursework, LORs, ECs) you would have a “better” chance than as a soph transfer. See this thread on the Transfer Students forum:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/390861-transfer-admissions-101-a.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/transfer-students/390861-transfer-admissions-101-a.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Two years ago, 2 of the 24 accepted transfer students came from UM, another came from Ohio State. While the school you come from is a factor, it is not a limiting one. But just so the OP doesn’t get too optimistic, the two soph transfers from these colleges were accepted to Y as freshmen, but matriculated with the top merit scholarships at their schools.</p>

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<li><p>Transferring to Yale is a wonderful thing that happens to some people, but it’s not anything like a plan. Do not plan to transfer to Yale.</p></li>
<li><p>There’s a huge difference between being a lock for Michigan (lots of people are) and acing it for two years. Michigan deserves its prestige. It has a wider range of students than Harvard or Yale, but included among its students are some for whom Harvard and Yale were NOT big reaches. And I personally know at least one kid who was a complete high school star and went to Michigan on its fanciest full-ride merit scholarship, and he was completely eaten up, struggled to pass his courses freshman year. Don’t count your chickens before you take a midterm.</p></li>
<li><p>It’s interesting that 1/12 of Yale’s transfers a few years ago came from Michigan, because, frankly, I would think there would have to be a hell of a justification for a student transferring from Michigan to Yale. Unlike a lot of places people transfer to Yale from, Michigan has strong, deep departments in almost everything. There’s really no limit to what you can do academically at Michigan.</p></li>
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<p>Harvard1009, you clearly don’t know what you’re talking about. Several Y transfer admits have come from community colleges. </p>

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<p>Again, what? There is no “algorithm” for getting accepted RD at Yale, where the admissions rate is 5%, and there’s certainly NO “algorithm” for transfer acceptance at Yale, where the rate is 2%. </p>

<p>Frankly, Harvard1009, you have 160 posts, most of them on chance threads, yet you continue to demonstrate that you have no knowledge of admissions at top schools. I would suggest you stop giving “advice” to people on such matters.</p>

<p>I know that some transfers are accepted from UMich, but I if you don’t have anything to make you stand out from the frosh applicant pool, and all you add to your resume is a good GPA at Mich, you won’t get in.</p>

<p>You can retake the SAT in college? WHAT???</p>

<p>Harvard, am I reading your post correctly?</p>

<p>As far as I know, you can take the SAT whenever you want. Your dad could take it.</p>

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<p>Academics are not always the sole reason for seeking a transfer.</p>

<p>Sure, I know that. One of my wife’s best friends in college transferred FROM Yale to Michigan because she hated what she saw as a culture of wealth and entitlement at Yale. Another mutual friend of ours transferred from Yale to Stanford because she was homesick and couldn’t get used to the weather in the Northeast.</p>

<p>I guess I just assumed that, if Yale was picking 20 transfers from a pile of 400-500 equally amazing applicants, the people who did not have adequate academic options elsewhere would represent more compelling cases than people who just wanted a change of scenery.</p>

<p>Since the majority of transfers seem to come from top colleges or military academies, and very few come from, for example, CCs, it appears that the lack of adequate academic options is not the only compelling factor being considered by Y transfer adcoms. </p>

<p>There are many good reasons for transferring (to or from Y) which lie between inadequate academics and change of scenery.</p>

<p>What do you mean by “top colleges”? I would think the prototypical Yale transfer would be someone who might have been accepted at Yale out of high school, but didn’t apply, or who WAS accepted, and in either case went to a good LAC and discovered after a time that the three linguistics courses it offered weren’t going to exhaust his interest in the subject. Or went to Deep Springs, and now has to go somewhere else. The military academies are perfectly consistent with that hypothesis. They do an excellent job of teaching some things and give others a wave of the hand, not to mention having a fair amount of baggage associated with being there. That’s not anything like someone transferring from Penn or Michigan.</p>

<p>I had a transfer-student roommate my senior year. He was someone who Yale had been recruiting for basketball, but he had chosen an athletic scholarship at Tulane. He had a falling out with the coach there, asked if Yale was still interested, and transferred. I imagine stuff like that still happens, too.</p>

<p>JHS, I believe a student might want to transfer from Michigan (or another top public) to Yale (or another uber-selective) on the basis of peer group. Yes, the tippy top students at any state flagship will be similar in intellect, achievement, and ambition to students at Yale and its peer schools. But after that, the quality of the peer group at the public declines markedly in comparison with the peer group at Yale. The middle of the pack at Michigan is just not the same as the middle of the pack at Yale.</p>

<p>It’s not about academic opportunities. It’s about having like-minded peers with whom to take advantage of those opportunities. </p>

<p>I agree with other posters who say if you weren’t a viable candidate for Yale in high school, it is highly unlikely that you’ll be a viable transfer candidate.</p>

<p>Does anyone know how to sign up to retake the SAT if your already in college? When I went online, one of the first things it asks you is your high school graduation date and doesn’t go anymore back then 2009/10. </p>

<p>I asked this is another thread but never really got a response, hopefully someone can answer it here since the issue was raised.</p>