TRANSPARENCY: Should PUBLIC universities be required to reveal basis for rejection?

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<p>OOS students are a “profit center” in that instead of subsidizing all instate students for the real cost of their education, they are getting out of state students that are not subsidized. (Except UVa does currently meet 100% need for OOS students-rare for a public and that could change). For instance, in Virginia, the state used to subsidize at the 70/30 level (students expected to handle 30% of the real cost). More recently and with the recession, Virginia students are more at the 49% level. OOS students at one point were on average paying 75% of the true cost of an education in Virginia but that has increased to at least 100 % of the true cost(which I think is as it should be for OOS students). I think the benefit of OOS students is really more that the state is having to subsidize the cost of less of their instate students, replacing with OOS. But as blueiguana pointed out, Virginia has caps on the number of OOS students. Most states probably have similar links about “Sharing the Cost of Education.” Page 9. <a href=“http://www.schev.edu/Reportstats/2012TuitionFeesReport.pdf?from=[/url]”>http://www.schev.edu/Reportstats/2012TuitionFeesReport.pdf?from=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>Sevmom - I’ve been away from my computer for the last 24hrs where I can more easily search and dig for that data. I’ll try tonight. The iPhone is great but not for really looking for something.</p>

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<p>No problem , blueiguana, I did some digging myself and the link I posted does kind of relate to the issue of IS/OOS and tuition .</p>

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<p>What is being asked for is why the applicant was rejected, not why others were accepted, which is no business of the applicant. So it really is an easy answer - the applicant, relative to other applicants, is an idiot. (if the rejected applicant then wishes to assume that the other applicants were less idiotic, that’s his/her right, but not the responsibility of the school to prove.)</p>

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<p>Perhaps at Mich and UVa, but not necessarily UC. In theory, OOS’ers are charged the full cost of education to attend UC. So they are not adding any profit, just covering costs. But in practice, some/many OOS’ers qualify for need-based aid at UC. While UC does not meet full need, it is still providing a financial (aid) discount which therefore necessarily means that such students are not even paying full cost, much less adding to “profit”.</p>

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<p>It is the same at UVa. They have ACCESS UVa so currently 100% of need is met for OOS students (that could change). Many OOS are full pay but there are many that also get aid. As many as 1/3 of students at UVa , Wm & Mary and Virginia Tech are OOS students , higher percentages than many other states that seem attractive to OOS students (UT, UNC, Berkeley, UCLA). Michigan may be higher than 1/3 but not sure. So, yes, I believe many OOS are covering their costs at Virginia schools but it is not always the case. Of course, merit aid is a different story but that is almost nonexistent in the most sought after Virginia schools.</p>

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<p>“full cost” versus marginal cost can be very different. Only need one 8 million volume library etc. marginal costs per student can be very low. Most classroom utilization is very low–under 50%.</p>

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<p>^^while marginal cost is fine for one or two additional students, when it runs into thousands of students, average cost is a whole lot more relevant. Some classrooms may go begging, but lab space is at a premium. As is dorm space.</p>

<p>Moreover, UC claims that the fees being charged are the cost of undergraduate education. (Whether that is true or spin, is up to their PR department.)</p>