Trip report: RPI

<p>Trip report: 4/5/2006</p>

<p>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) is on a 260 acre campus high on a hill above the city of Troy, NY and above the Hudson River, just north of Albany and just west of the western border of MA. It's roughly equally distant from Boston, NYC, and Montreal, with transit available to all. The Berkshire, Catskill, and Adirondack Mountains are near enough to allow outdoor activity. There are ~5000 undergrads with about a 75%/25% male/female ratio, with closer to 50/50 in some majors. </p>

<p>There are 6 schools: Engineering, Science, Management and Technology, Humanities and Social Sciences, and Architecture. Apparently a very large number of students (70%?) double-major, and pretty much everyone minors. Classes are taught by professors, with TAs wandering around the class to assist. RPI has gone to an innovative "studio" style of interactive teaching for many classes. In such classes, students work in teams of 2 to 4, at learning stations, networked to the professor's teaching station. Concepts will be presented in brief lecture style, followed by hands-on team investigation and demonstration of concept learning by the teams. Some intro classes will have 100+ students, but most studio classes have around 40 (broken into ~10 teams). Upper level classes will typically have ~10 students. RPI is on a semester system; classes usually meet twice weekly for 90-min.+ periods; classes are not scheduled on Wed. which is lab day. Students will typically take 4 classes per semester. Many classes have moved to final projects rather than final exams; the students we talked with were very enthusiastic about the projects they've worked on.</p>

<p>The campus is large for the number of students attending. Almost all the buildings are in red brick with similar architecture, with some newer buildings built to blend in (although inside they're totally new). There's a road through the center of campus, with mostly residential buildings, student center, athletic and fitness centers, and food services on one side, and with academic buildings, theatre, library, and auditorium on the other side. All the dorms have been renovated within the last few years. Freshmen are guaranteed housing on campus, mostly standard doubles but also a new suite-style building is available. Housing choices are respected based on order of receipt of deposit. The freshman dorms are in one quad area; other housing is in several other areas of the campus. Roughly 40% move off-campus after that first year; about 30% of the school is part of the Greek system. No one seems to have any problem finding desired housing. There is a shuttle system that runs around the entire campus and residential areas every 15 minutes; students say they often use it to avoid walking to class in the wind or snow. A huge church which used to be the library is now used as the campus computer center; all students are required to purchase a laptop, and the computer center pops harddrives into loaners if something goes wrong and returns the student's laptop, repaired, no-questions-asked, usually within 48 hours. The food is varied, healthy, and plentiful; the cafeteria in the freshman quad is open 7am - 8pm and is all-you-can-eat-any-time. </p>

<p>RPI is Div III except for their mens/womens hockey program which is Div I: hockey is a big deal there, with a special stadium for games which draw the community. An extensive intramural sports program offer a chance for everyone from students who haven't ever even been on skates but want to try hockey, to those who could be varsity lacrosse but don't want to commit the time to practices. The school football field is right in the middle of one of the quads, oddly enough. The oldest building on campus (the arts building) is being renovated now, a brand new multi-million-dollar Center for Biotechnology and Interdisciplinary Studies has recently been completed, and a new multi-million-dollar Experimental Media and Performing Arts Center should be completed by 2008. (As one of our tour guides was an EMAC junior (Electronic Media, Arts, & Communication) and that's what my S is interested in, there was much excitement between them on the tour regarding the status of this building.) Students were off classes today but those we saw in the student center were engaged, energetic, focused, happy.</p>

<p>Applicants can use the common app or the RPI app. SAT I or ACT is required; SAT II math and science tests are required for "accellerated program" applicants (Physician-Scientist, Management-Law, Science Techology and Society-Law). They expect 4 years of English, 4 of math through pre-calc, 3 of science, and 2 of social studies/history. Applicants to Electronic Arts or Architecture programs are required to submit a portfolio. RPI has a binding ED (11/15 deadline) before their RD 1/1 deadline. They "pay particular attention" to students who show some special talent they would contribute to the community, and it was made clear to us that demonstrating interest (particularly by visiting, if you are from far away, as we are) is considered very positively. High scores on AP exams will earn a student the ability to pass out of an intro course in some areas.</p>

<p>I have some work colleagues who are RPI grads and somehow I imagined it much different from what we saw today. After the tour and the discussion with our tour guide, despite it being far away from the standard "large city", RPI appears to be at the top of my S's list. He will definitely apply.</p>

<p>mootmom</p>

<p>See if your son's HS participates in the Rensselaer Medal Program.

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The Medal was first presented in 1916 with two purposes: to recognize the superlative academic achievement of young men and women, and to motivate students toward careers in science, engineering, and technology. This $15,000 per year merit scholarship is guaranteed for four years (five years for the School of Architecture program) for each medalist who is accepted and chooses to enroll at Rensselaer.

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<a href="http://admissions.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=1&setappvar=page(1%5B/url%5D)"&gt;http://admissions.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=1&setappvar=page(1)&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>You can search to see if your HS participates here: <a href="http://www.rpi.edu/dept/cct/apps/csvdata/rensselaerMedalistSchools/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.rpi.edu/dept/cct/apps/csvdata/rensselaerMedalistSchools/&lt;/a> The Medal is awarded by a High School to a member of its' Junior Class, so there's still time for this year's Juniors, assuming it hasn't been awarded yet at his HS.</p>

<p>RPI also awards significant Merit Aid beyond the Medal Program. <a href="http://admissions.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3&setappvar=page(1)%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://admissions.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=3&setappvar=page(1)&lt;/a>
Good Luck to your son in his college search :)</p>

<p>When my husband was at RPI, he really liked that he was a short drive from Boston, NYC, and Montreal--all of which he regularly spent time in. (That was before I met him.) </p>

<p>I really like all the RPI graduates I know--from recent (one or two years ago) to my husband (class of 79, although he didn't actually graduate, being too busy starting a business in the incubator program). They seem to turn out interesting people who can hold their own in any conversation.</p>

<p>Mootmom - Great trip report!</p>

<p>mootmom: Thanks for the great report. It mirrored much of what we saw there too.</p>

<p>mootmom - I have some friends who went to RPI and wound up doing their graduate work at Columbia and NYU, they really liked it there... the academics, student life.. everything.</p>

<p>I have solicited feedback from friends in industry and the 'rap' that RPI got was that while it produces great 'worker bees', it's not known for producing creative engineers or people that will push research or new innovations. One friend said 'go there if you want to be a really good programmer'.</p>

<p>We visited RPI two years ago, when S1 was a junior. They had some very nice, hands-on programs, and offer terrific merit aid. My main concern at the time was similar to what apple17 has expressed. It seemed a litte TOO focused on hands-on, and I wondered about the theoretical aspect of the curriculum. When I asked at an info session about percentage of kids going on to grad school, the answer was something like 10% or less. That may be due to the fact that many graduates would go directly to work in their field, and earn a graduate degree on the employer's dime. But combined with the male/female ratio, we felt that it would not have been a good fit for our son.</p>

<p>For the graduating class of 2005, the stats on the wall of the placement center indicated 65% were hired after graduation, 12% went to grad school, 4% joined the military, and 19% were "still seeking". It's precisely the nature of the hands-on curriculum offerings that I believe it's the best fit so far for my son: grad school is not going to be desireable or right for everyone.</p>

<p>As you said, mootmom, it depends on the student. For someone who really wants to get out there and work in the field, RPI is wonderful. My son is just more theoretical in nature, and is better suited for a different school. By the way, I thought the freshman dorms were great!</p>

<p>"I have solicited feedback from friends in industry and the 'rap' that RPI got was that while it produces great 'worker bees', it's not known for producing creative engineers or people that will push research or new innovations."</p>

<p>Wow! Most the RPI graduates I know (from before ten years ago) have started their own companies and are successful with them; the rest are top-level managers or consultants. My husband and his roommate (who actually did graduate from RPI) are on their third successful company together, in several different industries (computer graphics hardware, Mac peripherals, and bicycling), as just one example.</p>