Trouble deciding between UCSD and UCLA

<p>"C'est ton choisi'</p>

<p>It's..</p>

<p>C'est votre choix</p>

<p>visit/tour LA (on accepted students day?) -- you can't go wrong either way.</p>

<p>Of all of the UC's, UCSD (especially Revelle) has the highest acceptance rate to medical school (including veterinary school) of all of the UC's, including UCLA. UCSD is farther ahead in research, has plenty of opportunity for research assistantships, and UCSD's medical school is second only to UCSF, and maybe not even that. In addition, it is close to the beach. It is not uncommon to run into a total surf rat who talks like a surfer, only to find out that he is 4.0 engineering major. UCSD all the way...</p>

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and UCSD's medical school is second only to UCSF

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<p>Last time I checked, UCLA's med school was higher ranked and somewhat better respected. Please cite a source for this claim.</p>

<p>(This is not me arguing UCSD's quality, I just have NEVER heard this argued.)</p>

<p>Ari:</p>

<p>I was gonna point that out as well. On the west coast med schools, UCSF = 4, UCLA = 11, and UCSD = 14 (tie with Cornell). Obviously, both SoCal schools are excellent.</p>

<p>yeah, i was accepted into REVELLE and i guess that can be good...and bad "whimpers" but im used to hard work and multitasking <em>sigh</em></p>

<p>i will definately visit UCLA on April 15th and see what kinda vibe i get...thats gunna be a fun 4 hour drive...</p>

<p>im also going to call them (UCSD and UCLA) and see what their % is of ppl who get into med/vet school</p>

<p>hanhou,</p>

<p>Don't let a slight difference in med school acceptances sway your opinion. It's really not that important.</p>

<p>ucsd is BORING!!!</p>

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ucsd is BORING!!!

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<p>Good! Go study, you whelp! :p</p>

<p>well, im not much of a partier haha, like i have fun and stuff but im not into the party scene so much..</p>

<p>i think UCSD might have just ENOUGH to allow me to get a small feel, cus i dont need to go all the time...although i have scene pictures of UCLAs underwear parties hahaha</p>

<p>my advice is to choose ucla. sd and la were my top two choices, but as soon as i got into la, i knew i had to go there...i cant find anything wrong with ucla, but ucsd has a stereotype of being boring, and la jolla isnt the best college place. westwood is great...something interesting i heard is that after freshman year at ucsd, many students choose to live off-campus...but since la jolla is so expensive, people move far away, so it basically becomes a commuter school. i'm sure there are fun things to do at ucsd, but they are more far away...and of course the "boring" stereotype cant be all true, but it cant have come out of nowhere. i dont "party" either, but im not worried about ucla...its so huge, im sure ill be able to find tons of people who want to have fun without partying.</p>

<p>your major will most likely change...ucsd is well-known for science, but ucla is more well-known overall, regardless of your mjaor. also: revelle sucks ;)</p>

<p>but you have to visit each! its hard for you to make any valid judgement right now, because you havent been to ucla (i think im right in assuming this...)
maybe youll feel right at home, just like i did. or maybe the largeness and strangeness of it will make you feel way too uncomfortable. you just cant know until you go.</p>

<p>yeah thats what im saying so i dont know what im stressing about, hehe "why bother" stressing about it! i have all the way until April 15th to stress! haha thank you!</p>

<p>hanhou, </p>

<p>i'm in the same situation as you are! (and I saw you in the sd v la post, haha) i'm a bio-sci major and i'm at revelle - and i'm stressing for no reason, too. so far i'm leaning towards ucla because i'm in love west la. but i just can't bring help worrying that i'll be missing out at san diego - it's so beautiful there! and not to mention, their research programs seem to be a little ahead these years. </p>

<p>ok, i don't have any real insight to add, but i just wanted to commiserate :)</p>

<p>My source??? How about I have been there and know grads who went on to med school and actually know what the perception is of people who actually go into medicine. Not to flame, but where did you get your rankings, from Newsweek or US News? Anyone actually in academia knows these are a joke.</p>

<p>And yes, med school acceptance rates should matter to you. After all, that is what your goal is, no?</p>

<p>As for boring, I knew those types who complained about UCSD being allegedly "boring." They are usually the folks who 1) got UCSD confused with SDSU and wanted a party school and 2) sat around their dorm every night complaining that there was nothing to do. There is plenty to do if you are not too lazy to actually go and find out.</p>

<p>On the whole, however, I do agree that you need to visit both schools to find which one fits your style. I liked the college system at UCSD because you got the benefits of a big campus (activities, research library, academic atmosphere) and the feeling of being on a small campus. At graduation at Revelle, you will likely know or recognize everyone who crosses the stage. If the atmosphere of Westwood is more important, than UCLA would suit you better. My comments previously were merely restricted to the issue of medical schools and preparation.</p>

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My source??? How about I have been there and know grads who went on to med school and actually know what the perception is of people who actually go into medicine.

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<p>Boy, because we all know that anecdotal evidence totally trumps all. </p>

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Not to flame, but where did you get your rankings, from Newsweek or US News? Anyone actually in academia knows these are a joke.

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<p>Nice to know that you're a man of your words. :rolleyes: You know what's funny? People say that the USNews rankings are bunk, but when I set out to apply for my graduate degree (oh, nice subtle jab there, as if to say that I'm not in academia) my professors all said, "Well, they're crap, but use them as a rough guideline anyway."</p>

<p>The fact is, I have NEVER heard, from either doctors or med students, that UCSD's program is the better respected. I've always heard that it's considered one of the most rigorous and science-based medical programs, but never that it's better than UCLA's medical school.</p>

<p>Plus, even IF UCSD's medical school is better, that doesn't mean it's the better program. I'd choose most LACs over UCs for med school acceptance, and I sincerely doubt any of them have a medical school. Besides, better than UCSF? Dream on. UCSF is clearly the stronger program.</p>

<p>I will grant, however, that UCSD's med school has more research funding than any school. </p>

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And yes, med school acceptance rates should matter to you. After all, that is what your goal is, no?

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<p>Read what I posted. I said a slight difference should not matter. A difference of .5% is probably not statistically significant enough to warrant choosing a school (especially considering how much undergrads change career goals.)</p>

<p>UCLAri,</p>

<p>Boy, touchy aren't you. You get extra marks for noticing the jab, I was not sure you would -- after all, being accepted into graduate school makes you an academic, right? Well, wait until your first seminar...</p>

<p>As for the other issues, it is always convenient to dismiss inconvenient information as "anecdotal," as if I should be required to develop a survey, a set of standards, and pools of interviewees, doctors and professors of medical schools throughout the United States just to make a point on a thread on a web-site. Boy, you are full of yourself. And these doctors and med students, let me guess, UCLA alum, they were part of UCLA's program, right? We have an anecdotal standoff. The bottom line is this: UCLA is more focused on practice, and UCSD is more focused on research and is more cutting edge as far as procedures and techniques (except, perhaps, for organ transplants, where UCLA gets a nod). It depends upon what you want do to. </p>

<p>[On the issue of rankings, I am sure that your professor or advisor gave you more guidance than just "use them as a guideline." I am sure that was far more important to you to find a place that had a professor working on material that you want to work on, and that that professor will not be a total knob as an advisor. My serious advice to you -- choose your dissertation committee carefully, and your advisor even more so.]
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<p>I am not sure how you read into my post that I believed UCSD was better than UCSF. You are right there, that would be silly. Everyone knows that UCSF's existence began primarily as a medical school. Actually, if hanhou really wants to be a vet, she should go to Davis...</p>

<p>UCLAri, really, don't be so uptight, its only advice...</p>

<p>I think you should definietly chose UCSD, but then again I'm biased towards LA since they rejected me =P</p>

<p>hey dude UCSD is catching up really fast.
whoever said UCLA owns UCSD in Economics, that is not the case right now, for recent rankings show that UCSD is ranked 10th while UCLA and other UCs are ranked below UCSD..
it's not just econ, other programs in UCSD is catching up really fast</p>

<p>well, if you're shakey on the science part, go with UCLA...I do believe UCSD leans more towards math/science anyways</p>

<p>yeah....sigh...i dont know what to do...i absolutely LOVE how UCSD is set up because like posted earlier, in a big campus that give the feel of a smaller campus and you will most likely see familiar faces when you graduate. but..i dont know...UCLA man! i feel like its a decison between whats safe and familiar, and whats more spontaneous...if htat makes sense</p>