Trying to decide between Michigan, Stanford and Duke(PLEASE HELP!)

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<p>I hope you aren’t referring to UNC (we swept Dook this season)…but yes, this is true. You play a lot more games in basketball, though, which makes this possible.</p>

<p>And I’m not hating on Michigan. My father went to PSU, and his whole side of the family is nuts about Penn State. I’ve always preferred Michigan though-never drank any of their haterade.</p>

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<p>of all time, maybe. but ucla is losing its luster whilst duke remains strong as usual. duke consistently recruits the best players in the country and has the best coach in all of basketball. wait who coached the Olympic basketball team to a gold medal…oh right, i remember, it was coach k.</p>

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<p>…and still finds a way to lose constantly to its arch rival (UNC) and make early exits during the NCAA tournament each year.</p>

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<p>Stanford>MIT>Duke</p>

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touche. 10 chars.</p>

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<p>You mean recruits…like Patrick Patterson? And John Wall? And Greg Monroe? Oh wait, Coach K LOST those recruits? </p>

<p>Who’s beaten Coach K and dook 4 times in a row, AT Cameron?</p>

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<p>Michigan-Ohio State better than Duke-UNC? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.</p>

<p>Ohio State gets rocked by the SEC and Big 12’s good teams yearly and Michigan goes 3-9 last year and is the joke of the conference.</p>

<p>Duke’s point guard Greg Paulus was almost eligible to play footbal for Michigan. That’s HOW BAD the team is. This dude hasn’t thrown a football in four years and he’s basically qualified to be Michigan’s quarterback.</p>

<p>Stanford>MIT>Duke>Michigan</p>

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<p>MITpwnsnoobs69, two of Michigan’s “10000000” alums are Jerome Wiesner (MIT president from 1971-1980) and Charles Vest (MIT president from 1990-2004). Strange that you should have such a low opinion of a university that has produced two of MIT’s last four presidents, leading MIT for 23 of the last 39 years.</p>

<p>In truth, Michigan has 430,000 living alums, not “10000000” as you claim. That’s large to be certain, but Harvard has 335,000 living alums. Columbia has 275,000 living alums. I am not sure how having large alumni student bodies waters down a university’s brand. </p>

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<p>EXACTLY. Duke can’t hold their own in the tournament. ever. and that’s why they fail every year, despite their recruiting of the “best players.”</p>

<p>And who said college football is more important than basketball? Um, I don’t know much about college football and all those bowls they have, but how can you compete with MARCH MADNESS? When the NCAA tourney is on, it takes over completely. Bracketology is a religion.</p>

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<p>Ring<em>of</em>fire, OSU Michigan is generally considered the greatest rivalry in all of college sport (possibly all sports, regardless of level), regardless of how they are doing today. </p>

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<p>Ravalries about about tradition. The Snow bowl of 1950, the games between Bo and Woody back in the late 60s and through the 70’s etc… In the 1968 game, OSU was leading Michigan 50-14 after scoring a touchdown towards the end of the game. Instead of going for the extra point, Woody opted to go for a two point conversion. When asked why he went for the two-point conversion when the game was clearly won, Woody simple replied “because I couldn’t go for three.” </p>

<p>Of course, that is not to say that the Duke UNC rivalry isn’t awesome and special too. It is. I would say it is one of the top 3 or 4 rivalries in all of sport, but I would give the edge to Michigan OSU.</p>

<p>And even in recent years, Michigan and OSU have done ok, although they are admittedly less dominant than in the past. Michigan was National Champion in 1997 and OSU in 2003. Michigan is 6-1 vs the SEC in the last decade, beating Florida twice (including back in 2007), Alabama once (in the 1999 Orange Bowl) and Auburn once. OSU may have done poorly against the SEC, but they did well agains the Big XII. </p>

<p>And to correct your inequalities: MIT = Stanford > Michigan = Duke.</p>

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I’ll bring up Harvard/Yale then.</p>

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<p>lockn, because Harvard and Yale have not accomplished anything since 1930. Like I said, Michigan and OSU have the tradition (their rivalry has been significant since the early 20th century) but they are both major programs today. Michigan is admittedly down and OSU seems to have blown it in the last two BCS championship games vs Florida and LSU, but both programs are still considered among the best. Since the 1950s, the Harvard vs Yale game has been of interest only to Harvard and Yale students and alums. The Michigan OSU game is still watched by millions of viewers annually. It is televised in most of the US and you can watch it in many foreign countries.</p>

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<p>That survey was completed in 2000, and given all that has happened over the last 9 years I wouldn’t be surprised if the UNC/Duke rivalry would move from #3 to #2 or even #1 if the survey was done again this year. The Tobacco Road Rivalry has benefited from several incidents since 2000 (Henderson’s ‘assault’ of Hansbrough, the '05 comeback, national titles, etc) while both OSU and Michigan have struggled (relatively) a bit recently.</p>

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<p>Good point Cuse. Between the two of them, UNC and Duke have won three NCs in the last 10 years. Like I said, I definitely agree that UNC Duke is a great rivarly, but I still think the Michigan OSU rivalry is a little bigger. Those two have done ok over the last decade. Admittedly not as well as Duke and UNC, but they have held their own. OSU went 14-0 and won the NC in 2003, Michigan has managed to win the Big 10 three times in the last 8 years and has beaten Florida twice. And although diminished by both their losses in major bowl games that year, the 2006 game between #1 OSU and #2 Michigan was considered by many to be a classic.</p>

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<p>They have Lakers/Celtics and Texas/Oklahoma as “rivalries we wish still existed”. What the ****?</p>

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<p>Well, be it Ohio State-Michigan or Duke-Carolina, I think we can all agree that the OP will learn the true meaning of the word “rivalry” pretty soon assuming that he chooses Michigan or Duke over Stanford. ;)</p>

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<p>The rivalry of Michigan vs Ohio is fading fast if Michigan keeps losing.</p>

<p>The Stanford/Berkeley rivalry is probably more intense because it pertains to all sports as well as academics (esp graduate rankings). They are neck to neck in those areas. </p>

<p>You can’t say the same about Michigan-Ohio.</p>

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<p>^^^^^^Yeah, sure…Most people hotly anticipate the Stanford/Cal game every year. They just watch to see if a tuba player will get spiked at the end of the game.</p>

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<p>hahahaha Cal/Stanford rivalry is not anywhere near as intense as the Duke/UNC or the Michigan/OSU rivalry. Half the people at the respective schools (at least at Stanford) don’t even care about the rivalry, especially if they’re from outside California. I read an article from the Stanford daily about how a chunk of people didn’t even know when the big game was until actual game day. </p>

<p>Cal and Stanford’s sports fanbases don’t even reach outside the west coast. Does Stanford even have a national sports fanbase? And even on the west coast their rivalry doesn’t hold a candle to the USC/UCLA one. </p>

<p>I’m not saying Stanford/Cal isn’t a decent rivalry, but don’t try to compare it to any of the legitimate mainstream rivalries. I looked heavily into the sports scene of the schools in question when I was making my college choice. My friend who played football at Stanford for two years said that student turnout and enthusiasm for the team was lacking even compared to our high school. And Sam, unlike Stanford which has good turnout only when they’re winning (basketball or football), Michigan, OSU, UNC, Duke, UCLA, and USC have incredible TRADITIONS, and maintain their fans for a long time even when they don’t do that well in the short run.</p>

<p>Though, I don’t know how this turned into a sports rivalry discussion haha!</p>

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<p>Sam Lee, the fact that Michigan is a stronger overall university than OSU only adds fuel to the fire.</p>