Tulane vs. LSU Honors College (Pre-med)

<p>I'm a rising senior at a Louisiana high school. I plan on staying in-state for undergraduate studies and I'm trying to get an idea of what would be a better choice for a Biology/Pre-med student. By the time I'm done with high school I'll have a 3.8-4.0 GPA and my ACT is a 29.
I know that Tulane is much more expensive than LSU, but it is more prestigious with harder academics. Fortunately, money is not too big of a problem is Tulane will help me more in medical school admissions. For medical school I heard GPA/MCAT matters much more than the prestige of the undergraduate university. How true is this? I'm shooting for medical schools like Baylor College of Medicine, UT-Southwestern, UCSF, UCLA, etc. Not exactly Ivy Leagues but somewhere up there.</p>

<p>Should I: </p>

<p>A) Go to Tulane where it's more expensive and has more challenging academics; OR</p>

<p>B) Go to LSU Honors where it will be easier for me to make As but I'll have more time for internships and volunteer work.</p>

<p>What would help more in medical school admissions? I feel like I will do well at Tulane, but if I go to LSU I'm sure I could stand out.</p>

<p>Thank you in advance!</p>

<p>You have opened a topic that has no easy answers, it is really complex and involves some intuition on your part. FWIW, here is my opinion on a few aspects.</p>

<p>Most important is the money. You say it is “not too big a problem”, but med school is expensive also. So if you think you can pay for Tulane and for med school comfortably, great. If not, then save the undergrad money as much as possible and pick LSU. If you are sure that you can come out of undergrad with little debt even if you pick Tulane, then we can take money out of the equation.</p>

<p>Assuming the latter, then there is your assumption that you will stand out more at LSU because it is less competitive. This is the natural assumption, but not always the case. Some students react much better to the greater competition and end up excelling more than they would being the “big fish” in the pond. It just depends on your own traits, and you have to do an honest self-assessment in that regard. I personally fell into that category, being much more motivated by the competition at Tulane as opposed to skating a bit when I took summer courses at the local State U, where I saw first hand how much the quality of your classmates mattered. Also, as far as your comment about having more time at LSU, again this can be highly dependent on your own character. Many people (again, me included!) do better when they are flat out with activities and school. It forces you to organize your time.</p>

<p>Then, of course, there is the whole New Orleans vs. Baton Rouge and Big State U vs. smaller private school dynamic. Which environment do you truly thinks suits you better and which will be what you want to think back on in the years to come? Also, keep in mind the very real budget issues LSU is facing, like many state schools.</p>

<p>Finally, in general I agree that where you go undergrad makes less difference than how you perform, recommendations, etc. Naturally there is some bias towards the most prestigious schools, but it is hard to separate the “name” effect of the school from the fact that they are more selective to begin with so the students are bound to be more qualified. In the end a great student from almost any accredited school can be highly successful in this process.</p>

<p>To summarize, I would answer the money question first. If it is an issue, go LSU. If not, then think about the other factors. I assume that GPA is UW. If so, and if you can get your ACT up a couple points (or try the SAT?), then you might get a nice merit scholarship from Tulane, making the cost of attending much less. Not less than LSU probably, but closer at least.</p>

<p>First of all, I would say that it is correct that GPA/MCAT are more important than the school itself. The MCAT is probably even more important than your GPA. That being said, the school you come from probably could give you an edge over someone with the same GPA at a school that may not have the same academic reputation. The most important thing you can do is prepare for the MCAT by getting the best education you possibly can and taking a reputable review class for the MCAT. Volunteer work and shadowing experiences absolutely play into your demonstration of interest in the medical field, but again, MCAT and GPA are definitely the most important factors just in terms of getting interviews. You still have to make the decision for yourself which place will serve you better as far as getting you to that point.</p>

<p>Not to burst your bubble, but being from Louisiana will make it VERY hard to get into different state medical schools. For example, UT Southwestern is required to accept 90% of students who have Texas Residency. Public Texas Medical Schools then try to use that remaining 10% of out-of-state studens to boost their average GPA/MCAT scores (also includes MD/PhD students). I also know that the California schools are also nearly impossible to get into both in-state and out of state. I’m not trying to discourage you, I just wanted to make you aware of reality. LSU NO or Shreveport are going to be your best options if you are looking for a state school.</p>

<p>I’d suggest going to LSU for undergrad. There is no point paying for Tulane unless you get the DHS or have another hefty scholarship. I turned down 2 Ivy Leagues and several other top-15 schools mainly because Tulane was the best financial option for me. Even if you have the money, I think it can be spent on other opportunities and/or experiences.</p>

<p>I agree with tulane14. Also, you have to take into account that Tulane’s middle 15th percentile for ACT is 29-32, so you will be on the lower end. I think that at LSU, you will be much more competitive and get a higher GPA, which will definitely help in med school apps. </p>

<p>Of course, this does not mean that you can’t go to Tulane and come out with a great GPA and be even more competitive than an equivalent GPA at LSU.</p>

<p>If you want to get into LSU-NO or LSU-S, it’s very possible to accomplish from LSU-BR.</p>

<p>tulane14- If you don’t mind telling me, where do you plan on going for medical school, if that is your future plan?</p>

<p>I’m actually a Texas Resident so I will probably only apply to the 7 Allopathic Medical Schools through TMDSAS (The Texas Medical Application System). I don’t see the point in paying more for my education when I can get a solid medical degree at one of my state schools. If I decide to also apply through AMCAS, the other schools I apply to will mostly depend on my GPA/MCAT come application time. I can say, however, that there is 0% chance that I will apply to Tulane Medical School as I think it is ridiculously overpriced. </p>

<p>Feel free to PM me if you have any more questions about applying to medical school or anything. I haven’t gone through the process yet, but I know many people who have and I have been researching the process heavily for a few years now.</p>

<p>Thanks to everyone!</p>