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<p>Yep, my point exactly. Don’t you think some of the same people padding their college apps are the ones writing SAT essays full of purposely false information. Welcome to the slippery slope, where does one draw the line?</p>
<p>I don’t think you have any basis to support the fact that people who make up facts for the SAT are those who pad their applications with false ECs.</p>
<p>No, can’t say I’ve done a survey. I said some. I think people who are able to write things that are not true, are more comfortable writing other things that are not true.</p>
<p>Although that may be true, the vast majority of people who falsify facts on the SAT do not make up things on their college applications. The two things are far removed from each other. One things is within the bounds of a certain test that relies not on factual accuracy, but on writing ability while the other is a borderline illegal act that could invoke revocation of any acceptances should its real validity come to light.</p>
<p>I used Adolf Stalin, Theodore Hirohito, and a couple of other characters in my essay and got a 12.</p>
<p>I completely agree with Wedgedawg. Making up information on the sat and making up information for college recommendations are far from each other. Putting false information does not benefit your essay at all and is not as you suggest ‘wrong’ or ‘corrupt’. People who do this are not further inclined to become ‘corrupt’ and falsify their college apps by fluffing them with activities that create the appearance of a better applicant.</p>
<p>thanks a lot!</p>
<p>i concur with wedgedawg.</p>
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I don’t know how you would know this, I imagine people stretch the truth all the time.</p>
<p>The essay instructions say “Plan and write an essay in which you develop your point of view on this issue. Support your position with reasoning and examples taken from your reading, studies, experiences or observations.”</p>
<p>So where is the part that it is okay to make things up or distort history? Do you actually need to have the collegeboard crack down on people deliberately writing falsehoods to understand what is being asked? </p>
<p>I understand the essay is a test of one’s ability to write but it is assumed that people will try to pull from real information.</p>
<p>there are people out there, people like me, who have no idea whatsoever about literature or history, what else would you have them do?</p>
<p>There are your own personal experiences, current books/movies, books you have read for english class (my son just finished Dracula) or whereever you currently are in history for examples. If you have the Collegeboard blue SAT practice book, there is an essay on p 200 about honesty. The writer used all personal experiences and supposedly got a “6” (from one reader). </p>
<p>Read this link here on cc on how to write a “12” essay in 10 days and read all the posts that follow as he mentions 19 ideas you can use.<br>
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/645763-how-write-12-essay-just-10-days.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/645763-how-write-12-essay-just-10-days.html</a></p>
<p>He describes a template that you can use to figure out how to shape your essay in the limited time you have to write. He says to come up with a list of 25 (which is really more than you need) examples that you can research using Spark notes so when you arrive ready with some generic examples that fit many situations.</p>
<p>The SAT prompts are all about honesty, morals, standards, respecting authority and having ethics. Follow this link to get an idea of the type of prompts you will be asked to write about. Practice thinking up 3 examples in under 5 mins.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/764514-sat-essay-prompt-archetypes.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/sat-preparation/764514-sat-essay-prompt-archetypes.html</a></p>
<p>With a week or two of practice including writing a couple of practice essays, you can compose maybe not a “12” but a decent essay to not pull down your writing score.</p>
<p>I got less than 36 hours</p>
<p>You have time to read the post about writing a 12 essay in 10 days, you just don’t have 10 days. Go there now. Something will go in, it is a great guide.</p>
<p>Read all the comments and you will find his list suggesting 19 ideas. Look up any that are familar or reading them may spark an idea. He has Martha Stewart and Oprah which may not relate to you. However, think about Lindsey Lohan (or some other celebrity) and how fame, money and greed have ruined her life. You do have examples that relate to you if you sit down an list a few.</p>
<p>You must have read some books in English that you can just go to Sparknotes, go to the part about themes and read them to refresh your memory. eg Of mice and men or to Kill a mocking bird. Didn’t you have summer reading to do?</p>
<p>here is a BSed recent essay. care to grade it?</p>
<p>The Chinese philosopher, Confucius, once wrote in his ‘Analects’ that “the thoughts of the mind exist only for one reason: to be expressed.” This quote directly relates to the fact that thoughts should not be confined to one’s mind. Several relevant examples can be drawn up to express this idea.</p>
<p>Half a century ago, in the city of Lodz, Poland, lived a man who was soon to become president. Lech Kaczynski was raised in this city, and all his life adored politics. Had he not expressed his thoughts on the construction of the new radio station KPZ several years earlier, he might as well have forgotten about the presidency. Kaczynski spoke out and shared his feeling about the community. He let Poland know that a new radio station was needed, and it’s construction would encourage entertainment. Soon after it was actually constructed, several more competing stations popped up in the metropolitan area. It would sure have been similar to hiding his feelings if he had not said a word about the radio station. </p>
<p>Years ago, a friend, John, once asked someone if they knew that so and so liked him. it turned out to be true; his speculations were confirmed. John was no longer worried to be around the person who liked him, since the feeling was mutual! When John asked the other person to go on a date, she gladly accepted. Had John not been honest about his feelings and expressed them, John would not have a girlfriend right now. It just goes to show that one must express his or her feelings, but not to the point of total release, in order to advance in life. This does not, however, mean that one must spill out all their secrets to the world.</p>
<p>Isoroku Yamamoto, a character in the Japanese poem, ‘Mt. Fuji and Her,’ expresses his feelings about his father’s recent death. Isoroku longs for his father, and cries at his lover’s shoulder. He expresses joyful memories that were shared at a time when his father was youthful, and Isoroku was free of worry. Isoroku needed this time with his lover. He had to express his feelings to their highest extent. He needed to move on with his life, but before he did that, life needed to take its course. In the end, Isoroku accepted his father’s saddening death, and settled with his lover to whom he expressed all his intimate thoughts. </p>
<p>Another proverb from Confucius’ ‘Analects’ says “the mind is like a butterfly, flying from one flower to the next.” This can be interpreted as the mind is something that is constantly expressing itself on many things. Thoughts must be expressed, indeed, and one must not hold back in risk of missing out on advice or the like. The mind is not a jail for thoughts; it is more like a quarry of them.</p>
<p>Personally, I like the idea of basing your essay around three body paragraphs (one with literary examples, one with historical, and one with personal), with a strong introduction and thesis to lead off. The graders read holistically; a stronger introduction is going to give them a better impression.</p>
<p>Lakemom, so your child or daughter has definitely not done any activity for the sake of college? What about volunteering? Does he/she truly care enough in every single instance? I highly doubt your s/d has not “embellished” his/her resume…or if it hasn’t happened yet, in the future. And i do agree with you on the fact that its wrong, when you clearly fabricate stories/historical figures just for the sake of getting a high score but i believe it is for the person to choose whether they do it or not… You can’t just go around forcing people to believe your thoughts.</p>
<p>Doing an activity with college in mind is not the same as “embellishing” a resume by saying you have done more than you have done. For example, in another forum a student lamented she went on a family trip to India all summer and wished she has instead done an activity that was more college focused. She wanted to know if anyone would check if she wrote she had done tutoring of children in India during her trip though she really had not. That is the"embellishing" I am talking about. And no, my son would not do that. I constantly have to point out to him that activities he thinks are no big deal are in fact good for putting on applications.</p>
<p>I don’t see how I am “forcing” anyone to believe as I do. I just couldn’t sit by reading post after post with students who are supposed to be really smart, top of their class smart, acting like they “needed” to make up things on the essay to score well. I am entitled to my opinion and forums are in fact forums, they exist for people to express their thoughts and feelings about the subject in question.</p>
<p>It’s actually Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin. I can’t believe you wrote Adolf Stalin and they gave you a 12. You must be a really good writer.</p>
<p>^SAT graders aren’t supposed to penalize for inaccurate information.</p>
<p>Unless the BS disrupted the grader’s train of thought or flow of reading, there would be no pentalty for blatantly obvious fabrication.</p>