Two hypothetical applicants... What are their chances??

<p>Here are two applicants that I may become. Please Help!! I need to know what could be improved or done! </p>

<p>Me without junior yr ECs: 4.0 UW, 4.6W (standard weight, A in AP/honor=5)
top 15-20%
SAT: probably in the 2100's,maybe 2200 range
ECs: plays piano (9 yrs), guitar (1 yr), soccer (for fun).
2nd place at a french national piano competition.
graduated from music school valedictorian (out of a class of 20 )
8yrs studied in music conservatory.
played piano at various public events (church, town celebrations etc...)
probably some volunteering (50 hrs)
shadowed doctor (6 month, 2hrs a week)</p>

<p>Me with more ECs: 3.9 UW, 4.45 W, top 25%-30%
SAT: 2100's
ECs: the same
+ some academic club participation (Mu Alpha Theta...) ONLY for JUNIOR & SENIOR YEAR
+ NHS (ONLY SENIOR YR)
+ student council (senior YR)
+ 100-150 hrs volunteering
+ track JV</p>

<p>Courses for both applicants:</p>

<p>9th: english, spanish, french, algebra II, Integrated Physics&Chemistry, health, PE, world history (from a top foreign school that does have "honors" courses)</p>

<p>10th: English II pre-AP, Precalculus Pre-AP, Biology PreAP, World Geography PreAP, Health/fitness (for graduation), keyboarding, 1 semester orchestra. (straight A+)</p>

<p>(5 on AP french literature/and language)</p>

<p>11th: English III AP, Biology AP, Statistics AP, AP US history, chem preAP, Physics PreAP, BCIS. (straight A+ or perhaps some A-, hardest coursework)</p>

<p>12th: Physics C, Music Theory AP, Calc BC, Gov/Eco AP, Chem AP, English IV AP or DC.</p>

<p>What are their chances at: </p>

<p>UT austin engineering (in state), Michigan engineering, Berkeley (out of state), Rice, Caltech, MIT, Georgia Tech.</p>

<p>Thanks. Watson&Crick.</p>

<p>PS: sorry for the long thread.</p>

<p>Cool name.</p>

<p>Thanks (needless to say, i’m a bio nerd). Can you assess my chances?</p>

<p>Also, can you give any suggestions of good engineering/science schools I might be able to get in?</p>

<p>Looks good for Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, and VA or GA Tech.</p>

<p>For UVA, would I still have a good chance out of state? (considering my lack of ECs&community service)
I’m concerned because so many of my friends have much better ECs than I do (although I get better grades than them on all academic aspects).</p>

<p>Also, what are my chances at Rice, Cornell and Caltech?</p>

<p>Bump! thanks for any advices/comments.</p>

<p>UVA’s engineering is no good. Don’t apply there if you want to do engineering. On the other hand, their architecture program is amazing, but also very difficult to be accepted in to.</p>

<p>UVA is a reach for the first candidate, and a low reach / high match for the second one.</p>