<p>^Agreed, especially with USC being one of the most overrated schools in the country.</p>
<p>U of M is $53.5K for out of state students($56.3K for upper classman)? Ouch.</p>
<p>I may be a dumb hick, but for 4 yrs at Alabama I will be paying about 40% less than the cost of 1 yr at U of M.</p>
<p>“U of M is $53.5K for out of state students($56.3K for upper classman)? Ouch.”</p>
<p>Could you manage Alabama ever charging that kind of money? Nobody would pay it. You know why Michigan charges that kind of money? Because they can! What’s even more impressive is that the students who pay that amount of tuition/room/board rate are more times than not more accomplished than those who attend Alabama for free! There must be a reason!</p>
<p>In the meantime, the OP has an instate student to Michigan. Your comments about OOS expenses are not relevant to this discussion.</p>
<p>I don’t begrudge anyone who is willing to pay over $200K for an undergraduate education. To each his own.</p>
<p>When my son looks for graduate schools for CS, U of M may very well be on his short list.</p>
<p>I’ve worked with quite a number of scientists and engineers who graduated from 2nd or 3rd tier colleges who got their PhDs at Big 10 or Ivy League schools. It’s your last degree that matters.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t pay 200K for an undergraduate education either riporin. Luckily for those students who are instate to Michigan, they don’t have to pay a premium to get a world class education.</p>
<p>My son attended an inner city Catholic school and a rural Catholic school. They were far from elite, but he demonstrated through standardized tests that can he can compete against top students. He’s also proved himself in an internship at a local software company where he has worked for over a year starting as a 15 yr old. His boss told him that he is better than most of the college interns he has hired.</p>
<p>Do you honestly think going to Alabama will hurt him?</p>
<p>“I’d take that bet. Further, Michigan grads have the freedom to work on the coasts or Chicago, which alum numbers confirm. Where do all of Alabama grads live? I’d bet a lofty majority are forced to stay in 'Bama or surrounding deep south states. I’d clean my car keys in a power outlet before I’d sign up to serve that life sentence.”</p>
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<p>Yes, because where you get your undergrad degree COMPLETELY DICTATES where you’ll live after graduation.</p>
<p>JFC</p>
<p>"Do you honestly think going to Alabama will hurt him?</p>
<p>If anyone wants to justify not paying a reasonable premium to attend a superior school, then you already have found your answer. No further comment is necessary on my part.</p>
<p>Given the demand for software engineers, I think he’ll be able to work wherever he wants.</p>
<p>That’s fine. As per this thread, personally I would pay the premium to attend Michigan over Alabama at instate rates. To me, the overall difference in quality is well worth the price.</p>
<p>rjk, what is a “reasonable premium”? Certainly cost was a factor in choosing Alabama but it wasn’t the only factor. He had free rides and cheaper options else where and he turned them down.</p>
<p>This thread and my discussion wasn’t based on your child riporin. I have no idea where you are from. All I know is that your son didn’t apply to Michigan. As for the OP of this thread, IMO it is reasonable to pay a premium for instate tuition to attend Michigan over Alabama.</p>
<p>Correct, the thread was about U of M vs U of Alabama.</p>
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<p>This is still going on? Wow. I don’t care how pompous this sounds, only poor dumb southerners obsessed with football go to Alabama. And only poor smart (but shortsighted) kids are taking them up on those scholarships. Is that really who you want your gifted kid around?</p>
<p>I wouldn’t describe him as “gifted” and he was impressed with the kids he met at honors orientation.</p>
<p>He’s a good student, but there are a lot of students at UA who are much stronger. I had quite a few interactions with students, planned and unplanned, and one thing that impressed me were the kids’ soft skills. I think that UA must work with kids on how they present themselves.</p>
<p>So now you don’t know if he’ll get his MBA in 5 years? Sorry I’m confused. You listed that as the main extra “opportunity” at bama but suddenly he’s unsure if he’ll want to do that and may just go for the subpar CS degree over MN and Wisconsin? Okay. Obviously we’re not going to change your mind about this one, but please check back in four years when he hits the market and eat crow for us.</p>
<p>The STEM MBA program was just one of the benefits of UA. It wasn’t the reason he chose UA. He’s coming in with 40 credits so worst case if he hates it he can graduate in 3 yrs and move on to grad school.</p>
<p>riprorin,</p>
<p>I would suggest not pushing your son towards the 5-year MBA program. There’s very little utility in an MBA immediately after undergrad and none of the Top 30 business schools allow students to ‘double-dip’ into an MBA so he’ll be effectively closing the doors to a future opportunity when it will actually make sense for his career.</p>
<p>I was in a similar situation back in undergrad and was initially enrolled into a 5 year Comp Sci. + MBA program (not Michigan) and later pulled out of it due to all the disadvantages.</p>
<p>there is at least one … [Johnson</a> at Cornell | 5-Year Bachelors/MBA](<a href=“http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/Dual-Degree-Programs/5-Year-Bachelors-MBA.aspx]Johnson”>http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/Dual-Degree-Programs/5-Year-Bachelors-MBA.aspx) … not sure I’d recommend getting an MBA before working at least 2-3 years though</p>
<p>Ah, I was referring to people attempting to get a second MBA later in life.</p>
<p>There’s a few top schools that do accept a handful of kids every year but I believe they have to apply once they are nearing graduation from the school - similar to the Cornell program you linked. I remember Harvard also recently started a program aimed at pulling kids who probably would’ve gone to law school after undergrad instead of joining the work force.</p>