<p>I've been trying to decide between U of T or UBC. Since i live near UBC, it will be more conviennient for me to go UBC. But i m also attracted to U of T for its better reputation. Help! I have make my decision in three weeks!</p>
<p>UofT, surely. I know both. But Vancouver is, probably, the greatest city in the world after, of course, Bratislava.</p>
<p>what sort of prestige difference exists between the two?</p>
<p>There is not the huge difference in 'prestige' and 'reputation' between Canadian universities as there is between American. All are public universities. Both are good schools and you can get an excellent education at either one. However, U of T is generally considered to be the top Canadian university, in the business world, in the academic world, and by the general populace.</p>
<p>not mcgill?</p>
<p>McGill is also a good school but, as I said, U of T is generally considered by most in Canada to be its top university. The vast variety of courses offered, the second best library system of any university in North America, the quality of professors, the diversity of the student population, its artistic opportunities for students in theatre and music, its famous alumni (for those who consider that important), and, of course, for its huge endowment which is unique in Canada.</p>
<p>how hard is it to get into either ubc or U of T for US students?</p>
<p>I would definitely go with U of T, for all the reasons alwaysamom stated.</p>
<p>the diversity of the student population ? No way..McGill is the most diverse..Toronto Kids go to U of T..</p>
<p>Endowment? Does it anything to do with you? Hell no...u are an undergrad..u are nth YET....</p>
<p>Quality of profs? Both McGill and U of T have high calibre profs....</p>
<p>actually always a mom is correct. U ofT's student body is 40 percent visible minorities. Toronto students go to York university btw.</p>
<p>cfso, U of T has the most diverse student population of any university in Canada. Even if your claim that only "Toronto kids go to U of T" were true, which it isn't, the diversity would still be there. Toronto is the most diverse city in North America! </p>
<p>The endowment benefits ALL students who attend U of T. Perhaps you don't know what an endowment does? The university has more financial resources with which to run on a daily basis, more money available for scholarships and financial aid, more money for library resources, more money for capital construction projects, more money for maintenance, more money to hire the best faculty. Those are all things which will benefit undergraduate students.</p>
<p>No one said that McGill didn't have "high calibre profs". What was said is that U of T is generally considered the top Canadian university, and it is.</p>
<p>do you live in Canada? I do, live just outside of Toronto and I've never heard anyone say that Toronto is the best in Canada. Mcgill def. is better and other schools, Queens and Waterloo for example, are on the same level as Toronto in most respects.</p>
<p>I live in Montreal. Both McGill and U of T are considered equally good here. To be honest, you'll get a top quality education for whatever school you choose in Canada.</p>
<p>score911, I've lived in Toronto for much of my adult life, nearly 30 years. I can assure you that most in the academic world in Canada; in much of the business world - banking/financial/investment; in the legal community; in the medical community; etc. feel that U of T is Canada's top university for the reasons I detailed in my earlier post on this thread. You have to look at the university as a whole, not just one or two programs. McGill may be more popular with American students, especially those in the northeast, due to proximity but it has had a period of many years now where it is seriously underfunded by the province of Quebec, and that financial neglect is evident in many ways at the university. I have several friends who are professors there and my Ds have friends who go to school there. As I said, you will get a good education at either one but there are differences in reputation.</p>
<p>UofT is definitely the most renowned university in Canada, no question about that. Mcgill pretty much lives off the reputation of Montreal, where students sees it as synonymous to irresponsible drinking and partying. </p>
<p>I'd pick university based on strength of the program you were accepted to, though UofT pretty much beats UBC in all regards. But since you are in vancouver, I'd pick UBC just for financial reasons. I've been to both cities, and they really aren't much different</p>
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Sorry, but that's a pretty lame argument. Do Montreal students not go to Mcgill? It costs them like 3k in tuition to go there, vs 8k for UofT.</p>
<p>What US schools would be considered similar in academic respects to U of T and UBC? Trying to get a feel of the drop in quality that people are talking about, and the only way I can really get a grasp on it is to have US equivalents. I'll be applying to UBC as a transfer student b/c of Vancouver and the skiing. Does anyone know how transfer friendly UBC and U of T are? I've heard Canadian schools are based solely on grades and test scores.</p>
<p>UBC is a drop from top American schools, U of T is as competitive as pretty much any university in the states bar Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Princeton. Same goes for McGill.</p>
<p>Whoever said that Mcgill lives off of Montreal's reputation is seriously misguided. And as for alwaysmom... I've never heard one person say U of T is better.... and I've lived just outside Toronto for my ENTIRE life. 95% of students would rather go to McGill than Toronto no question.</p>
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I don't quite understand... are those other 5% not human? </p>
<p>Misguided? You're the one to talk. UofT holds the most prominence by far in Canada. This is due to its grad and professional programs (law, med, rotman), which have always ranked #1 in Canada. Whether it's better in undergrad is another question, but we are talking about general prestige here (which I think, or hope, is that you are referring to)</p>
<p>brand_182, the requirements for each program are listed on their website. </p>
<p>UofT for undergrad is top 30 and is comparable to UCLA (maybe a tad under)</p>
<p>thanks dooit</p>