U.S. offers Katrina families $2,000 each

<p>The problem is, it's a huge structural assignment for the government to try to rebuild families from scratch by giving them each individual item that they need. Giving them money is, although not an especially thoughtful way to do it, still at least something that is guaranteed to help the victims.</p>

<p>And, hell, even if they want to spend their money on TV or shoes, who cares? Most people in America have TV and shoes, and most people evacuated by the hurricane had those things two weeks ago. The whole point of disaster relief is to try to restore a sense of normalcy anyway.</p>

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That's still just as stereotypical. In making that post, you are making the assumption that,</p>

<p>1) 90% of everyone evacuated from New Orleans is black, and
2) 90% of all black people are the same.</p>

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2) no theirs Blacks and the the N word

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I'm not seeing the relevance here. Good job on controlling yourself and not using the N word I guess, but nobody accused you of that.</p>

<p>Okay, I'm sorry about my last post; it was crude, and it was deleted. But still, you need to actually think out some of this, Scotch. These people are out of their homes and lost and confused. They have feelings, they're not hungry for money like some wild dogs. Who's is going to go out and squander money at a time like this? Put off the stereotypes.</p>

<p>$2000 MIGHT be good enough for the time but people need to buy a house/build one or get a job and find the parts of their "lost" routine. This quite costs money. So 2000 dollars isn't enough although ur hunger problem might end with that depending on the family size. </p>

<p>One more thing, i know that putting federal aid to help the victims is good BUT i have to say that our debt will increase tremendously. Economically if the nation's debt is divided by the total population the debt per person is about 30000 dollars my gov teacher told us. So more federal aid will increase the debt we have as citizens of this nation. I'm not against the hurricane relief but just showing u new data and perspective.</p>

<p>It's obvious that you're not the classiest Caucasian posting on College confidential. You constantly reinforce your ignorant stereotypes, demean poor people who happen to be uneducated, and also show how cold hearted those who are more enlightened have become regarding the less fortunate. George Bush is a man of priviledge that has wasted every opporunity to improve his intellect and has rode his daddy's coat tail to Andover, Yale, Harvard and now he's dumb downed the white house. Whats the difference between a poor person wasting their money on Nike's and bling bling, and a priviledged spoiled brat like George Bush getting liquored up and coked out skating through school with C's. Scott tissue, you're the worse this Country has produced because your ignorance screams an ugly historical tune.</p>

<p>FEMA's Blocking
Relief Efforts -
An Amazing List
9-8-5</p>

<p>FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations
<a href="http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://news.ft.com/cms/s/84aa35cc-1da8-11da-b40b-00000e&lt;/a>.. </p>

<p>FEMA turns away experienced firefighters
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/5/105538/7048&lt;/a> </p>

<p>FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec&lt;/a>.. </p>

<p>FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/05/national/nationalspec&lt;/a>.. </p>

<p>FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food
<a href="http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05246/565143.stm&lt;/a> </p>

<p>FEMA bars morticians from entering New Orleans
<a href="http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15147862&BRD=%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15147862&BRD=&lt;/a>... </p>

<p>FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid
<a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/171718/0826%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/9/3/171718/0826&lt;/a> </p>

<p>FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board
<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-0509&lt;/a>.. </p>

<p>FEMA to Chicago: Send just one truck
<a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902dale%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-050902dale&lt;/a>.. </p>

<p>FEMA turns away generators
<a href="http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html&lt;/a> </p>

<p>FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond"
<a href="http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.fema.gov/news/newsrelease.fema?id=18470&lt;/a> </p>

<p>That last one is real -- not satire but straight from FEMA's website.</p>

<p>Mr. Scotch Tissue</p>

<p>"Vancouver-based team reached St. Bernard parish five days before the U.S. army got there."
<a href="http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/09/08/louisiana_canada_thanks_20050909.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/09/08/louisiana_canada_thanks_20050909.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961 </p>

<p>Our military organization today bears little relation to that known by any of my predecessors in peacetime, or indeed by the fighting men of World War II or Korea. </p>

<p>Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But now we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense; we have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security more than the net income of all United States corporations. </p>

<p>This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society. </p>

<p>In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. </p>

<p>We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. </p>

<p>Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. </p>

<p>In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government. </p>

<p>Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. </p>

<p>The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present </p>

<p>and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientifictechnological elite. </p>

<p>It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society. </p>

<p>V. </p>

<p>Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering, for our own ease and convenience, the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow. </p>

<p>VI. </p>

<p>Down the long lane of the history yet to be written America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect. </p>

<p>Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of the battlefield. </p>

<p>Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war -- as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years -- I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight. </p>

<p>Happily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But, so much remains to be done. As a private citizen, I shall never cease to do what little I can to help the world advance along that road. </p>

<p>VII. </p>

<p>So -- in this my last good night to you as your President -- I thank you for the many opportunities you have given me for public service in war and peace. I trust that in that service you find some things worthy; as for the rest of it, I know you will find ways to improve performance in the future. </p>

<p>You and I -- my fellow citizens -- need to be strong in our faith that all nations, under God, will reach the goal of peace with justice. May we be ever unswerving in devotion to principle, confident but humble with power, diligent in pursuit of the Nation's great goals. </p>

<p>To all the peoples of the world, I once more give expression to America's prayerful and continuing aspiration: </p>

<p>We pray that peoples of all faiths, all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its spiritual blessings; that those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibilities; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; that the scourges of poverty, disease and ignorance will be made to disappear from the earth, and that, in the googoodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love.</p>

<p>I really don't think FEMA is the one to blame. FEMA was an independent organization until Republicans passed a legislation making it a part of the Homeland Security Department. After that they have lost a LOT of independence. If u r blaming FEMA i think it's better to blame the homeland security department since THEY control FEMA.</p>

<p>Bush is the Best and Smartest President to sate in American Gistory,</p>

<p>lol at ^post...</p>

<p>Anyways, I'd say $2k is a reasonable amount for immediate needs, but I agree that it's going to take more money and programs (job/housing/schooling for kids) to get these people back on track.</p>

<p>2) 90% of all black people are the same.</p>

<p>What the f***? I BEG to differ.</p>

<p>Wow, good job by the CC racists revealing their ignorant viewpoints. Oh and they just happen to think that Bush is the "Greatest President" (btw notice how one of them capitalized it as if it's the name of God). Coincidence??!! I don't think so!</p>

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Bush is the Best and Smartest President to sate in American Gistory,

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<p>I'd either FDR or Lincoln. FDR got this country out of the worst depression in its history without having to crack down on millions of protesters/riots and without turning towards marxism (although he did turn towards socialism to solve several problems).</p>

<p>Lincoln for his being able to fight only the south and keeping England out of the civil war</p>

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<p>It's ironic that one accuses another of making stereotypes, and then turns around and makes stereotypes about our President Bush..</p>

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<p>Though the above may be one extreme, there are many hardworking Americans who earned their money. Is it fair for my parents, who work more than 11 hours per day, 6 days a week working a blue-collar job in the scorching heat to have to pay tens of thousands of dollars to people that they don't even know? Sure there is a certain sense of satisfaction for "giving", but it would be ridiculous to essentially ask someone for months of hard-earned money.</p>

<p>Some things to consider.. It's not only true for the victims of Katrina (namely Blacks) but probably a considerable majority of people in the poorer class; they may find that $2000 is more than enough and start spending money uncontrollable without thinking about that future (many lottery winners end up bankrupt quickly because they have never had so much money before). It's better to give someone "too little" money than "too much" money, however $2000 is not necessarily too little anyway. I agree with Scotch that giving too much money will unfortunately result in many unnecessary purchases of unnecessary things. Chances are, a good portion of those victims did not have much more than that anyway-- perhaps their homes weren't even fully paid for either.</p>

<p>What the federal government should really do is give a boost to those victims. They should not buy them entire houses, cars, mp3 players, etc. It was a major (and probably the most) fatal natural tragedy to affect this nation. No one expects them to live normal lives within the next few days.. it's a gradual process where they need to learn how to support themselves.</p>

<p>P.S.- Aren't the majority (if not all) of Bush's decisions influenced or derived from his administration? Bush administration would be just as incompetent as he is, in that case. I hate watching comedians, late-night talk show hosts, etc. make fun of Bush's appearance of incompetence even if it's really his administration that throws around these ideas with him. It's just an easy target for them; otherwise, how else would they convince the ignorant, American public that the government "sucks"? They certainly can't go out and say that Condi is an idiot, but by taking Bush's statements out of context, I guess he's just a sitting duck.</p>

<p>I hope I wasn't completely wrong about it, but don't be afraid to correct me if I'm wrong. It's annoying to see all these comedians, etc. making fun of presidents/politicians because they know that Americans don't know any better.</p>

<p>Krabble88,</p>

<p>I would indeed be stereotyping if I said all wealthy people are spoiled brats. However, I was only referring to The C Student from Andover, Yale & Harvard, who did not have the grades to qualify for admission to all three of those Institutions, but his Affirmative Action Legacy priviledge allowed him to take a space from those who worked hard to get the grades to earn entrance. GW Bush would not get into Andover, Yale or Harvard today because his academic record was so horrible, even legacy status couldn't help that life long screw up. Who was an ignorant spoiled brat that got liquored up and was a Cocaine user. Those are not stereotypes, those are facts. Also, Bush is the most unaccomplished person in his administration. His whole incompetent Administration is brighter than him and they're pathetic. He's a draft dodging hypocrite and we're paying the price for his negligence & ignorance.</p>

<p>Just to put some facts out there: Bush did not admit to abusing/consuming cocaine, and he did not necessarily say that he did.</p>

<p>Since when were the actions from decades ago relevant to one's competence today?</p>

<p>Chances are, GW Bush would not have been admitted into Andover, Yale, or Harvard if not for his legacy status, but why blame him? I doubt he had much of a choice when it came to choosing his education (at least at Andover and perhaps Yale).</p>

<p>Do you really think he was elected governor of Texas and the president of the United States because of his name? In that case, the voters are to blame, and if they're going to be that ignorant, then they deserve to pay the price. </p>

<p>What do you want him to do, exactly?</p>

<p>FEMA is no longer going to go on with the 2,000 plan. I heard that on the news this afternoon -- not sure if someone said this already.</p>

<p>i heard it too. they said something about using back statements or something. i don't rememebr exactly what they said though.</p>

<p>I also heard that FEMA plans to stop distributing the 2K debit cards. Here's a [url=<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_debit_cards;_ylt=AqoQDrj3ORhhHbBz44awqA0DW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl%5Dlink%5B/url"&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/katrina_debit_cards;_ylt=AqoQDrj3ORhhHbBz44awqA0DW7oF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl]link[/url&lt;/a&gt;] to the story.</p>