<p>Do you have a source for that info?</p>
<p>I know mike would've implied that I was lying if I didn't have this link.</p>
<p>"Its pretty clear the program intends (and does) use race as a criteria, but they have good lawyers and I'll bet they crafted the policy in a way that will pass judicial review. One example -- you can get credit for taking certain college-prep programs, but those programs are only offered in predominantly minority schools. The intent is of course clear, but since you COULD transfer in theory to one of those schools even if you were white/asian, it probably passes the legal test."</p>
<p>Let me get this clear you want an even playing field but you dont want college prep programs at predominately minority schools. Does anyone see this as a contradiction. It makes a college compare a prep school kid to a kid from a disfunctional HS be compared without any leeway for their situations. Its the equivalent of breaking a persons leg before a big relay race against someone fit and asking them to race without waiting for them to heal, how is that fair in any way</p>
<p>Why is diversity so important? If there are whatever percent of a certain race, must they be represented that way in college?</p>
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Let me get this clear you want an even playing field but you dont want college prep programs at predominately minority schools.
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No, if it was up to me we'd have prep programs at ALL schools with disadvantaged children regardless of what color skin they live in.</p>
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Let me get this clear you want an even playing field but you dont want college prep programs at predominately minority schools.
No, if it was up to me we'd have prep programs at ALL schools with disadvantaged children regardless of what color skin they live in."</p>
<p>Seeing how this is a UC could you possibly name anywhere in CA where schools with low performance and bad neighborhoods do not have a URM student population. I dont see how making up hypothetical situations which do not occur in real life help your argument.</p>
<p>BTW you still have had no response to newpswahine comment</p>
<p>From what I've seen, it looks like there may be a backlash against Hispanic applicants at UCs. My friend got accepted to UCSD with <1000 SAT, 3.5 GPA, no ECs, and 20 hours community service last year, but I didn't get in this year with a 1300 SAT, 3.6 GPA, several ECs, and 100 hours of community service. Even he was shocked I didn't get in.</p>
<p>Also, my genius Hispanic friend with a 1500 SAT, 4.0 GPA, tons and tons of meaningful ECs, and 100+ hours community service (as is required by our school) didn't get into either UCLA or Cal. All of the Hispanic valedictorians from last year got into Cal.</p>
<p>There's gotta be a backlash or something. Maybe the Hispanic applicant pool has increased too much to give Hispanic applicants an AA advantage.</p>
<p>People ask about why there should be diversity in college. Well, for me, I don't want to go to school with 25,000 people who aced the sats but are all white or asian from middle to upperclass families who did all the same lame ECs. I don't want robots. I'd take someone with a 3.0 who had hopped a train to Iowa or something interesting like that before some kid whose spent their whole life trying to be the perfect applicant. Sorry if that was a little off topic, but that's what I think.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, just because you force students from different backgrounds to attend school together, doesn't mean they will integrate. </p>
<p>From my observations at Cornell, African Americans tend to cluster together. It seems like every black person on campus knows each other and yet there is relatively little contact with whites or Asians. Ironically, I don't see segregation to the same extent between Asians and Whites. In fact, there is a heavy amount of interracial dating (primarily between Asian girls and white guys). Latinos are almost invisible. I can't even comment on them because I simply don't see many around. What you have is a racial dynamic that resembles the outside community. The ORMs clustering together and minorities forming cliques. </p>
<p>The fact that you regard Asians and whites as robots and overachievers who lack color and character doesn't help in the integration process.</p>
<p>What itegration? Whites and Asians at my school are very integrated. And I don't regard Asians and whites as robots. I'm white, and I'm pretty sure I'm not a robot. What I said is that I dont want it to come to that, even though I see it more and more as colleges become more and more competitive. +, I'm not talking about color per se, I'm talking about life experience.</p>
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<p>there is no REVERSE discrimination :-X</p>
<p>if i can get into UCB with only an annual income of 13K, i see no reason why blacks cant either! stop whining and get your face in those damn books! sure its harder but theres 24 hours in a day! that means 24 hours of pain!</p>