UC-B Letters and Science transfer requirements? IGETC, L&S breadth, Assist confusion

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<p>Hi everyone, I'm confused as to what the requirements or preferences are for transfer applicants to UC-B L&S. </p>

<p>UC-B's Computer Science BA page on Assist.org says:</p>

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By the end of the spring term preceding fall enrollment at Berkeley,<br>
you must complete: </p>

<p>1) The L&S Requirements in Reading & Composition, Quantitative Reasoning, and
Foreign Language; OR
2) IGETC

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<p>Which presumably means that for general education, one needs to complete at least the 2 English, 2 foreign language, and a math or similar. </p>

<p>But then on the UC main site says that UC transfer applicants must complete: </p>

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"Four transferable college courses (3 semester or 4-5 quarter units each) chosen from at least two of the following subject areas:
arts and humanities
social and behavioral sciences
physical and biological sciences"

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<p>(From <a href="http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/transfer/requirements/minimum-requirements/index.html"&gt;http://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/transfer/requirements/minimum-requirements/index.html&lt;/a> ) </p>

<p>So I'm confused whether I should listen to assist or listen to the UC main site. As you can see, the UC general site does not mention foreign language but instead mentions 4 courses from those 3 groups.</p>

<p>Assist also says:</p>

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Primary selection criteria for admission, in general:<br>
- completion of L&S Requirements (or IGETC), plus<br>
- strength of academic preparation, and<br>
- grade point average.

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<p>Which suggests that simply doing the "Reading & Composition, Quantitative Reasoning, and Foreign Language" is not a good idea and that instead a transfer applicant should complete ALL the L&S requirements or IGETC.</p>

<p>Should I just play it safe and complete IGETC before attempting to transfer? This would mean taking +80 CC credits to be on solid footing with completing some of the prerequisites. (38 IGETC plus 23 math plus +20 computer science) </p>

<p>Sorry to be asking so many questions on the forum. I've been spending hours a day crunching numbers and looking up courses as I try to make a plan as a beginning CCC freshmen, but still get stumped on occasion.</p>

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<p>Hey, I was accepted into L&S intending to major in CS. I completed IGETC, and I’m sure that helped my application. I’m not sure if you’re talking semester or quarter credits, but should be possible to finish IGETC, math, and CS courses in two years, with room left over. You can pack a ton of IGETC courses in one term if you pick the easy ones; ask to go over the unit limit if needed. Also, IGETC will help for UCSD.</p>

<p>So yeah, I totally recommend IGETC. Best of luck.</p>

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<p>Listen to assist. You’ll end up filling the general requirements anyways… it’s just saying you need four classes from somewhere in those three areas. Four classes doesn’t make up an entire two years, it’s only one semester. :stuck_out_tongue: And again, if you do your other requirements this one shouldn’t matter at all, you’ve got it covered.</p>

<p>Some of your CS/math pre-reqs should be applicable to IGETC requirements… see if you can get anything to double up. IGETC is also better than trying to pick and choose L&S GE requirements, since you know it’ll transfer as planned and it’ll work at the other UCs you apply to. And yes, you should have a plan B… there’s always a couple 4.0 students getting rejected from Cal, it’s sad but it’s true that you should have a backup in mind.</p>

<p>Oh, and your CCC probably won’t offer all the CS pre-reqs you need. Shop around if you can, or take Berkeley summer session, or just don’t worry about them. But if you’re planning to do 61ABC or an EE class, plan ahead! They can be hard to find, but they’ll make your application stronger. You definitely don’t need them though (I transferred EECS, had none of CS61, CS70, or EE40/20), if you can’t find an articulation nearby take whatever CS your CC offers, but know that you’ll have to catch up after transfer if you do that.</p>

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<p>You need to fulfill all of the baseline UC requirements, the L&S requirements, and those for your major. In practice, if you complete IGETC, you will complete the L&S requirements and baseline UC requirements, so you then just need to complete what you need for your major.</p>

<p>Berkeley CS 61A, 61B, and 61C are hard to find at CCs. Laney has 61A and 61B, while Diablo Valley has 61B and 61C.</p>

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<p>failure, if listening to Assist and the UC link, it’s not just the 4 classes. But the 4 classes plus 2 English classes, 2 foreign language classes, which would be at least 30 credits… a whole year. Adding 23 math and 20 computer science would mean 73 credits total.</p>

<p>IGETC would require 38 without counting the math requirement… if I’d need 30 credits without completing IGETC, might as well do 8 more credits to get it completed, it sounds like. Computer science classes aren’t applicable to IGETC, as far as I’ve read. And indeed none of the CS courses at my CC are relevant for transferring… I’ll have to take the CS courses at 1-3 other CCs.</p>

<p>I appreciate all you said. I was wondering how much the CS mattered. Technically I could take no CS courses and hope for the best, but it sounds like that would really reduce my chances of admission, yeah? Though getting the 12 credits worth of 61A/B/C completed at CCs will likely require close to 25 credits at CCs. But that would mean 61A/B/C all articulated and done at CCs… leaving just CS 70. Is it common for science majors to take over 70 credits at CCs before transfering to UC/CSU?</p>

<p>Plan B is (as of now) a Davis TAG. Plan C is… go to whoever will take me, haha. I’ve been looking up articulations to find what would work reasonably well for both Davis and Berkeley CS.</p>

<p>underbear, that’s good to know. I’ll try to pack on the IGETC early. I fear a high credit load’s risk to GPA, but if I’m not good enough to get A’s doing that, then I should be reconsidering my plans anyway.</p>

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<p>Short answer: Just do IGETC, plus your major’s pre reqs. That covers it.</p>

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<p>Thanks all, will do!</p>