@CCCtransfah, The res hall staff tries it’s best to keep transfers together in the same rooms in the units. (Usually one or two transfer designated rooms per floor) It usually doesn’t work out though because most transfers end up switching rooms / opting out of on-campus housing at the last minute.
Hi guys! I’m applying from out-of-state and I was wondering could tell me just how important the IGETC certification is for out-of-state applicants. Thanks!
What major are you applying for?
I don’t think you can get IGETC certified as OOS…
You definitely can’t. Majors that require it may be able to take similar classes though? I don’t know squat about IGETC since the college of engineering doesn’t require or recommend it.
I’m applying for the Political Economy major.
Have you checked out assist.org? I’m applying out of state, and I have just been trying to take courses similar to the required classes. It’s kind of all guess work for out of state applicants.
@Evilcow867 Same, but how are you planning to fulfill the Critical thinking - English Composition requirement? Additionally, have you fulfilled the Arts requirement?
I’ve taken the two general English classes that my CC offers. I’m applying for EECS, and the college of engineering doesn’t really care about a lot of that stuff. IGETC isn’t recommended for engineering transfers.
If you are OOS, you cannot fulfill the critical thinking course. Just take two eng comp courses, and try your best with the other IGETC. IGETC is more of a relative thing with OOS.
@SDGoldenBear Hi there, I’ve a question though. Even while seats at 100A/101A are reserved for econ students, do PE transfers get to take either of these two classes/waitlist as long as they finished the prerequisites required? (Calc 16A+B/I+II).
Also, technically it is highly possible to switch to econ after getting in as PE, as long as I am enrolled in econ 100b and ace my first semester? Considering taking at least 3 courses for my first semester to “catch up”
- There are no limitations preventing anyone from taking 100A (or 100B) and that's the reason why it gets filled up so fast. A lot of freshmen and sophomores opt to take it earlier to open up more possibilities for them in later semesters which makes it very difficult for non-Econ transfer admits. This bottleneck in course availability, along with the need to declare by your first semester as a transfer for Econ majors, is why they save some seats in 100A/101A for Econ admits and some in 100B for PE admits.
- Yes it's very possible to switch into Econ as a PE admit. The requirements to declare the econ major are not very intensive. ( https://www.econ.berkeley.edu/undergrad/prospective/transfer-students ) If you meet all the other requirements at your CC, it leaves you with Stats 20/21/134 along with Econ 100A/100B/101A/101B. As a PE admit, you already avoid the biggest problem of adding one of Econ 100A/100B/101A/101B so you just need to take the stats course and submit a major declaration form prior to the fifth week of the semester. Once your final grades are in, and you meet the GPA requirement, you will accepted to the major.
To explain “catching up” better…as a PE admit you generally will take one 100B (Macro) in your first semester as it’s required for pretty much all the upper division classes in the PE major. Contrast to that, 100A (Micro) is required for most traditional Econ upper division classes so an Econ major with only 100B credit will have almost no major courses available to them during their second semester leaving them to take 100A and playing “catch up” to the other econ majors in their graduating class.
Econ Admit → 100A in first semester → Can take a lot of upper divisions during second semester
vs.
PE Admit to Econ → 100B in first semester → Can’t take other Econ upper division courses so must take 100A second semester → Starts taking other econ upper division courses in third semester
Additionally an Econ major switching to PE would face the same problem:
Econ Admit to PE → 100A in first semester → Can’t take other Econ upper division courses so must take 100B second semester → Starts taking other PE upper division courses in third semester
Edit: Grammerz
Hello … i am new to this thread. I am following this thread to get an idea for my son. He is planning to transfer next fall, . His major will be CS. I understand that at UCB there is CS under L&S and EECS, and it is more competitive to be accepted at EECS. We are not sure about the current min. GPA to declare major for CS under L&S, i read it somewhere that it is 3.4. as of now my son is not yet sure whether to apply to CS or EECS, each has its own difficulty (EECS hard to get in, CS may be slightly easier but have to do well to declare major later ). My son will complete his IGETC as well as the requirement for EECS by Spring. Any advice for us? Maybe @lindyk8 can advise us about this? or other EECS/ CS students / candidates? thank you…
UCB does not publish their average admitted GPA’s, but it’s generally agreed upon that you can look at the numbers UCLA publishes (https://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/adm_tr/Tr_Prof14_mjr.htm#SEAS) and add a few points. Deciding on whether or not to apply for EECS or CS in L&S your son needs to decide if he is interested in the engineering side of things. From what I understand CS in L&S can take the same CS courses as EECS students, but they don’t have to take the electrical engineering courses required by the College of Engineering. I think they take a few more humanities instead.
thankyou @evilcow867. I conclude from the last year thread that those who are accepted at EECS has GPA close to 4 while for CS around 3.9-4. From the UCLA data the GPA is 3.85 and 3.88 so yeah it is a close estimate for UCB. My son does not mind engineering actually if his chance is good he would love to choose EECS so that he does not have to worry about declaring his major after the 1st sem later. Well this is what we have to consider… under L&S he will have to do well in the 1st sem in CS classes in order to be able to declare a CS major, and this will not be easy. Suppose he can not attain the required GPA then what… he may have to change major… and this is undesirable… I suppose UCB will also consider the classes that we have completed (aside from major prereq). and since my son also completed IGETC he does not get to take the recommended classes for EECS (he only takes the required classes). Will it affect his application in case he decides to apply to EECS instead of CS? Thankyou for all information.
Having the recommended courses definitely makes an application stronger, they say that themselves on assist. I don’t know if not having recommended courses is counted against you or not. I do know that for EECS they recommend taking the recommended courses over completing IGETC, however.
@beth28 Everyone who applies for EECS has a gpa between 3.95-4.0 and 2 solid internships/jobs/ec’s… The people that get accepted are the ones who take as many recommended courses as possible and still maintain a 3.95-4.0 gpa. I’ve heard there are many applicants who only complete the major prerequisites, get a 4.0, but are still rejected from EECS. The program is very competitive with a 7-8% acceptance rate. The COE website says about 2K people apply for engineering every transfer year. This year it will probably be around 2500 people if you look at the trend of historical data. About 25-35% of the engineering population tends to be EECS since it is a popular degree, especially for berkeley. If you are going to go for EECS, you are looking at about 800 applications for 50-60 slot positions to give you an idea.
I saw the thread about summer classes at the UC’s, and now I would REALLY like to take one of the CS61A/B/C courses at Berkeley next summer. Should I let them know in the additional comments that I am planning to take it there over the summer? How does that work?
I don’t think they will consider any summer courses for admissions purposes.
As far as taking the class over summer prior after acceptance, I know they incorporate a clause it into your conditions of admission for it.
Here’s a sample one:
“You may not attend summer session for the purpose of completing a minimum of 60 UC-transferable semester units, IGETC, or UC Reciprocity requirements. If you wish to attend summer for any reason, you must receive approval from your UC Berkeley Admissions Officer before you enroll in summer courses. You may not attend a 4-year college/university or UC Extension without prior permission from your Admissions Officer. Failure to consult your Admissions Officer about summer enrollment options could jeopardize your admission. If you are approved for summer enrollment, you must provide proof of enrollment and you must earn a 3.0 or higher GPA with no individual course grade lower than a C.”
Spring admits go through the same thing with fall semester as ell.
It’s a double edged sword though as there have been an unfortunate amount of rescinds due to failure to get a C in their courses.
thank you for the information @Evilcow867 and @EECSProdigy …