@goldencub I have never argued against the concept of prestige being the supreme factor. What I HAVE been arguing against is that PRESTIGE IS CONSIDERED. I believe prestige is never considered, looked at, or used as a “measuring stick” to deem someone worthy over someone else. THIS is what I am arguing against.
This is exactly why students from different schools are working in big time corporations; it is never because they went to a certain school. We have to get out of this mindset that an employer may pick me over someone else just because of the school I went to. This will NEVER happen. Your work ethic and contributions to the field of your desire will get you to where you need to be.
I am speaking on behalf of everyone who feels as if they must go to a prestigious school for the sake of getting a job. The school you attend is NEVER considered. It is simply your accomplishments, goals, work ethic and various other parts that make you the person you are that nail you that dream job.
Well technically I have been accepted to UC Davis through a TAG, I know a few others on here have already been accepted to other UC’s as well. #humblebrag
No one is saying that you cant be successful with a CSU degree, at least what I’m saying is that looking at two fresh faces straight out of college with similar stats and ambition, prestige could definitely be the difference between open and closed doors.
@MikeSauce Technically, nothing. You have not received an admissions letter from that school, you have only taken one step towards your final admissions decision, and you know this. And you continue to say that prestige can be used as a decision factor, but you never have a why. And if you do say why, I give you plenty of reasons as to why that is not true. You all do not know what you are talking about.
Well what I did receive was a letter saying “complete this and you’re in” obviously they cant set it in stone if I bum it out my last semester, even an actual admissions letter will have stipulations. What Im saying is prestige=work ethic and what you’re saying is work ethic=job, you just dont want to connect the two ideas.
@MikeSauce Yes, an actual admissions letter will have stipulations but an approved TAG does not say you have been ADMITTED into the university like an official admissions letter does.
Prestige = Work Ethic
Work Ethic = Job
Prestige DOES NOT = Job
You cannot put the two together because they are INDEPENDENT of one another. You can’t even put prestige and work ethic together, which is your very argument. A good work ethic is what gets you a job, more than any level of prestige. There is no denying this.
@csmajortom EXACTLY! It is never the prestige that gets you into the prestigious school, it is the work ethic. And consequently, it is the work ethic you put into college that gets you the job, not the prestige of the university.
Not quite. Continuing the generalizations…HR will hire whomever provides the least risk for their company and ultimately themselves. For them, each hire is a large investment of company assets (training time, opportunity cost, severance pay, liability risks, etc.) as well as a testament to their ability to make decisions and they will weigh applicants and hire whomever provides the greatest return at the lowest risk.
For some positions that means hiring the fresh elite college grad who has no bad habits and no attached baggage and for others it’s the experienced intern that already knows the ins and outs and can be productive right away. There is no simple formula and it’s inaccurate to say that one applicant cohort will get hired more often then the other without providing a specified position and industry but it’s financially and rationally sound that the ones hired were among the ones with the lowest risk to the company.
The worst workers are neither the inexperienced or under-skilled, but rather the ones that simply hate their job but are too settled to look for alternate positions. Cancerous coworkers like those hinder productivity and HR will do everything they can to avoid hiring people like that.
@MikeSauce It is called Transfer Admission Guarantee if you follow specific instructions, my friend. You have gotten through one phase of those instructions, but you are still not admitted into the university and I really hope you do not believe you have been admitted.
@csmajortom I am so happy that you are asking these questions, because it is very important that we all understand things that may be confusing to us. You are INDEED RIGHT! They think, “Wow, this student attended Berkeley, he must have something going for him and probably works hard”. If you look at the UC websites, you see how much they boast about how well rounded, ambitious, hard working and dedicated their students are. They COLLECT these types of people. The employer knows this.
Thanks pal, but you dont need to explain the TAG to me as I have an approved letter in hand, I hope you do too as they can be very reassuring during the admissions process
