Just so we’re clear anecdotal literally means a story or experience that is not based on research or fact. Yes your stories matter, but they are not evidence that can support a claim
"And then you just responded to that with: “What a stupid, stupid person! He claims he’s not arguing against the holistic process when he indeed is.”
NO, I did not respond with this. I responded by saying, “You are confused. You are talking to me as if I said GPA was not important. I never said that the GPA did not matter, nor did I say it was less important than anything in the application.”
“I’m not arguing against the holistic review. Again, per Haas, they weight applications by 50% grades and coursework, 35% essays, and 15% resume. Despite a holistic review, grades are still the single most important factor. This is a fact, this is indisputable, this isn’t even up for discussion … like it or hate it, it just is. Me saying that grades are the most important factor doesn’t mean I’m arguing against their holistic approach. That isn’t even a logical argument on your behalf.”
Again, you are talking to me as if I said the GPA is not as important as the holistic review process. Using your words: Everybody already knows this information. I brought up something completely different in response to @CoreyL I brought up the holistic review process, which is what you had a problem with. You argued and argued as if I took away from the importance of GPA. Also, how about we all take a look at @CoreyL GPA and notice that it isn’t even BELOW the average of admitted students into UCB.
This only PROVES that I have never said anything about GPA not being important compared to holism, because it would have to mean I was talking to someone with a low GPA.
Take the L, @briank82
@briank82 You ARE arguing against the holistic review process. I have plenty of evidence. You said it right here:
“Regardless of it being HOLISTIC, a 3.5 GPA could be above average for one major and significantly below average for a capped and highly competitive major. That matters, even more so when the biggest factor considered at Haas is GPA and coursework. Period. I disagree with your findings because they are not true.”
You also talk about the importance of GPA and coursework as if, again, I stated holism was more important.
@MikeSauce The factual evidence is posted right on UCB’s website. It is clearly stated that GPA is not the only factor. My friends experiences and stories are backed up by Berkeley’s own words. It must be true then if someone gets in with a less than average GPA it is because of Berkley’s approach to reviewing applicants.
@RAHforHEE LOL … “I disagree with your findings because they are not true.”
Someone very, very wise, rational, reasonable, and logical once said that. Put on your thinking cap, maybe it’ll come to you.
I thought by simply saying “I disagree with your findings because they are not true” regardless of the argument in front of me, it just meant I automatically won and everything else was just automatically discredited. Good to know.
@briank82 If you want to play it that way, then fine! No shame in your game.
Just know, you’re at 0-2 right now.
You should really work on being more humble.
@briank82 You should really work on learning to leave people the hell alone when they know what they’re talking about and not pick random fights for the sake of fighting. It was clear you had something against me from the get go because no one really argued as much as you did against my post. You’re still salty from the first argument you lost. I get it, but deal with it quietly.
Talking about “scores” and W’s and L’s, while personally attacking people and calling them stupid … repeatedly. Way to act like an adult. You are so not humble that you can’t see this as anything but some score or competition. Remember how butthurt you got when I brought up your GPA, and you have the nerve to call people stupid? You’re a child.
You’re on a public forum. People are bound to have differing opinions as you. You should learn to have thicker skin, and sometime it’s not everyone else that’s the problem, it’s you. I looked back at your posts from the past and you seem to get super defensive and argumentative with more people on here than not. That certainly can’t be healthy. I’m not sure how old you are, but you sound and act like you’re 12.
@briank82 Child, you are only upset because you know you are in the wrong for accusing me of saying something I did not say. I am all for opinions. Not one time, at least in this current argument, did I try to force my opinions on you. You screwed your own self up when you tried to lie about something so silly, only to keep the argument going. This led me to believe that you must be a stupid person.
I understand you’re upset from the previous argument we had, but what gives you the right to purposefully start an argument with me, knowing that you are wrong about it? Even YOU knew that your intentions were not good when you came at me earlier today. You only wanted to argue, for no clear reason and try to make some sort of statement. I was here to help @CoreyL and you turned that into something WAY overboard, all because I forgot one silly word–which of course, NO ONE ELSE HAD AN ISSUE WITH BUT YOU. But you and I both know you just wanted to argue about something, and I called you out on it several times.
Just let it go and let me help others without you trying to start some fight with me before it becomes 0 -3 for you. I never attack people or judge others unless I am judged or attacked first. Look at all my posts all you want; you will notice that I don’t start anything with anyone.
While I can’t divulge my specific source for standard deviations…as a current “Haas Reject” (AKA Econ major) I can say firsthand that a 3.5 GPA is more than 1.5 standard deviations below the average when it comes to Econ admits.
Considering Haas is even more competitive than Econ…well you guys can figure it out.
Also, while it might be different at UCLA, two C’s in the calculus series would pretty much eliminate you from Haas contention as your maximum major GPA would be 3.33 which is more than three standard deviations from the transfer average admit GPA of 3.86.
(Hint: 68-95-99.7)
@SDGoldenBear You cannot say that for all transfer applicants, though because there are other course other than major prep that they need to take, which can raise their GPA higher than the 3.33.
lol. That’s your problem. You are fixated on these arguments, again with the W’s and L’s. You have brought up at least a dozen times that I’m just “mad” from you “winning” the previous discussion we had. I couldn’t care less and it’s funny how you need to rub this in my face. Not to prove to me that you “won,” but to prove to yourself. Like it will suddenly become true the more times you say you won. That is both hilarious and sad.
I also never lied about anything, I haven’t lied a single time. I have absolutely no reason to lie. Feel free to address the lie directly though if you’d like. Show me what I lied about.
You may not think you start things with anyone, but you’re overly sensitive and perceive everything as some slight against you. Again, not surprising as you portray me as someone who is attacking you and lying about what you’re saying and how you’re an innocent victim just being harassed by me. Oh no, 0-3?! I better stop while I’m ahead because I’d hate to go 0-3!
Haas primarily uses only the major prerequisites in their GPA calculations. Other course are only considered as a secondary GPA for borderline applicants after the initial evaluation of the primary courses. All UC Berkeley capped majors operate in this regard.
That said, the calculus series is counted as 5 units each or 33% of all the 30 units (7 total courses) evaluated for the primary GPA calculation.
@SDGoldenBear Soooo… do you know the average GPA admitted for econ major? I am majoring in Econ and I am really curious lol
@Molisha Thanks !
@resonanx All of the things that they told you pertain to both schools. I think Berkeley stresses EC involvement a tad more, but that’s partly my intuition.
@SDGoldenBear I see what you’re saying. It would be hard to get in with a GPA like that, but I saw it happen twice!
DISCLAIMER: I am not encouraging students to get a 3.33 GPA in major prep and expect to get in. Everyone’s situation is different.
@resonanx The mean was over 3.9 last year.
@briank82 You did try to lie on me. You said that GPA matters as if that was what I was arguing against. Had I not said anything to defend myself, you would have ran with it and made me look like a fool in front of everyone. You see, the problem is, when people speak a little truth, everyone goes crazy. I am speaking the truth on here, and whether you like it or not is your own business. If you want to take it up with me, then we will argue about it, I have no issue!
I am not being sensitive just because I share my opinions with you, if that were the case, I could call you a sensitive person as well. Like you said, we all have our own opinions on here, why can’t we argue them over on one another?
We can go back and forth all day @briank82 but understand and know that today, you screwed up and tried to make this dramatic argument against me. Too bad it blew up in your face.
Now, unless you have something better to talk about, could you please just stop talking to me and let this argument die out? We are getting absolutely nowhere with this petty argument. Why can’t we just come together as transfer applicants and discuss Berkeley without getting angry at each other for no reason? YOU were the problem today, not me. You were the ONLY one who had a issue with me trying to assist @CoreyL For that very reason, you should just sit there and take the L.
And apparently the argument means something to you because you keep trying to come back with something. If you want to keep playing this game, I will play it with you, For every post you make, I wlll post two more just to prove to you that I am not going to be ran down by some fool who thinks he can talk to people any kind of way.