<p>Today, I attended the Law Fair at Berkeley. I spoke with representatives from NYU Law and Columbia Law. The representative from NYU told me that NYU accepts a significant amount of applicants from UC Berkeley, and a year or two ago, Berkeley was their number one feeder school. Also, the representative from Columbia Law states that Berkeley is one of the top 5 feeder schools. I was surprised by this fact because I thought mainly students from Ivys had an edge when it comes to admissions to top law schools.</p>
<p>Think about it:</p>
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<p>Do you think that the laws schools would go to Berkley (not knocking them) and say "oh, we don't accept students from Berkley?" That would be counter prouctive.</p>
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The representative from NYU told me that NYU accepts a significant amount of applicants from UC Berkeley, and a year or two ago, Berkeley was their number one feeder school. Also, the representative from Columbia Law states that Berkeley is one of the top 5 feeder schools
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<p>Both statements are ambiguous, all relative and subject to interpretation as to what constitutes a "significant number" and the the "top 5 feeder" schools (how do you know that they are not grouping the ivies or it it is not one of the top 5 feeders out side of the ivies, stanford, etc?</p>
<p>The one thing that is true is that law schools try to admit a class that is aligned with its institutional mission so in that respect you won't find a class that is overwhelming filled with Ivy league students, poly sci majors, etc.</p>
<p>Don't overly analyze the statement, just stay the course, continue to do well in your classes. Do well on the LSAT, toss your hat in the ring when the time comes and let the process play itself out.</p>
<p>All things are relative of course. Berkeley has 20,000 undergrads versus the 6000 at most Ivies. So even if Berkeley were sending more people than, say Brown, the acceptance rate might still be quite low. There are also many people at Berkeley that decided to go to Berkeley despite admissions to higher ranked schools. These are the people who made 1600's and 1590's and are destined to score 172+ on the LSAT as well. They would be accepted to most law schools no matter which undergraduate program they attended.</p>
<p>The devil is in the details, and I would suggest that you not think of the Berkeley brand name as being good enough to slack off a little.</p>
<p>Well, I just checked the career center website, and in 2004, NYU accepted 35% of the applicants from Berkeley, while Columbia accepted 18% of the applicants from Berkeley. So, I don't think the reason why we're a feeder school is because there is significantly larger number of students at Berkeley that are applying to law school. For example, in 2004, only 65 graduates applied to Columbia Law, while 69 applied to NYU Law.</p>
<p>Sorry, I was having some problems with quoting:</p>
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Do you think that the laws schools would go to Berkley (not knocking them) and say "oh, we don't accept students from Berkley?" That would be counter prouctive.
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<p>Of course not</p>
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Both statements are ambiguous, all relative and subject to interpretation as to what constitutes a "significant number" and the the "top 5 feeder" schools (how do you know that they are not grouping the ivies or it it is not one of the top 5 feeders out side of the ivies, stanford, etc?</p>
<p>The one thing that is true is that law schools try to admit a class that is aligned with its institutional mission so in that respect you won't find a class that is overwhelming filled with Ivy league students, poly sci majors, etc.</p>
<p>Don't overly analyze the statement, just stay the course, continue to do well in your classes. Do well on the LSAT, toss your hat in the ring when the time comes and let the process play itself out .
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<p>Well, I the question I asked them is how my institution compares to others in the admissions process, so I do not think they are grouping the Ivys together. The Columbia representative even told me that Berkeley's admittance rate is higher than some respective Ivies.</p>
<p>You have to ask yourself whether it is the institution's reputation that is getting students in or the students themselves. I would be on the side that it is the student's themselves. If you look at the gpa's of Berkeley admits, they tend to be higher than those from Harvard and certain other top Ivies for the same LSAT (using each school's respective career site).</p>
<p>So don't think with a 167 you'll be getting into Columbia Law on the Berkeley name.</p>
<p>doesnt berkeley have almost 25,000 undergrads? a better statistic would be acceptance rates of berkeley applicants compared to either acceptance rates of x school's applicants or overall acceptance rate of the law school.</p>
<p>That statistic would hurt Berkeley because there are plenty of people with sub-165 scores that apply to schools like Columbia from Berkeley--and they are a LOT of them since Berkeley is a public school that accepts a lot of sub-par students. The fairest comparison, IMHO, are between Berkeley students who have similar stats to people from other schools.</p>
<p>At any rate, keep in mind a law school benefits from receiving more applications and rejecting more people in order to increase its selectivity ranking. It could just be a ploy to attract sub-standard students into applying.</p>
<p>Berkeley IS a top feeder school. But this won't help you, because the only thing that really helps based on school is the calibration based on the average historical LSAT for each school's applicants.</p>
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Well, I just checked the career center website, and in 2004, NYU accepted 35% of the applicants from Berkeley, while Columbia accepted 18% of the applicants from Berkeley.
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<p>2004 was a unusually good year for Berkeley students getting into NYU. For all the years between 1998-2005, the admit rate was about 25%. </p>
<p><a href="http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm%5B/url%5D">http://career.berkeley.edu/Law/lawStats.stm</a></p>
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doesnt berkeley have almost 25,000 undergrads?
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<p>About 23.5k, actually.</p>
<p>does anyone know if Columbia (undergraduate) publishes stats like this? I can't seem to find them. I know Penn publishes them too...</p>
<p>Up can get them from the career services office or from the Pre-law advisor.</p>