<p>So I know its a T-14, but whats the odds of actually getting into here? Especially as a UC Graduate (soon)?</p>
<p>More questions will follow. Thank you for the replies in advance.</p>
<p>kitty.</p>
<p>Profile of the Class of 2014
Number of Applicants: 7,253
Number in Class: 254
Median LSAT: 167 (169 = 75th percentile, 164 = 25th percentile)
Median GPA: 3.79 (3.88 = 75th percentile, 3.62= 25th percentile) </p>
<p>[Berkeley</a> Law - Entering Class Profile](<a href=“http://www.law.berkeley.edu/37.htm]Berkeley”>Entering Class Profile - Berkeley Law)</p>
<p>AKA Good luck…</p>
<p>I’m also looking to go into Law; most likely wont get Berk because of pre-reqs/breadth BS. However their law school would be amazing to go to.</p>
<p>What is your current GPA? If it is less than a 3.5, then you will be below on GPA. Even if you have a 3.5, you’d have to get a 4.0 from here on out to even reach a 3.75-ish</p>
<p>Boalt is notoriously heavy on GPA over LSAT, as evidenced by their rather high GPA and rather low LSAT. Remember though, for Law School, A+ factors in as 4.333. </p>
<p>They don’t give preference for UC students, although I imagine going to Cal for undergrad could only help. Boalt may actually begin to recruit more heavily from OOS because they pay higher tuition</p>
<p>Question is how would they factor in CC units if my college doesnt do A -/+ etc…</p>
<p>They count an A, B, C, etc. from CCC as regular grades (can’t get +/- at most CCC’s). Then they average your CCC and UC GPA into a total undergraduate GPA. They don’t really care where your grades come from, as long as they are high.</p>
<p>THEY don’t do anything. LSAC computes your grades. The Law schools admissions committee. You send in all your grades, transcripts, lsat, recommendations all to a central place. It makes a profile for you and that is what gets sent to law schools. Once your “package” is put together you apply to whichever law school you want. </p>
<p>Remember those are the medians quartile percentages. Students do get in with less numbers. It depends on your status as well. URM (under represented minority) students get a boost and can be admitted with lower stats. </p>
<p>But the main thing is, doesn’t matter what school you go to or even major… g.p.a and lsat are king. It’s really the only thing that matters. </p>
<p>here are some stats of Boalt law admittances:
[University</a> of California Berkeley - Admissions Graph | Law School Numbers](<a href=“Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers”>Stats | Law School Numbers)</p>
<p>There are law schools that are splitter friendly, that means if you fall above one group and below the other. So if you have a lowish g.p.a. study for the LSAT like its a full time job and kick butt. </p>
<p>As you can tell, I am also thinking of going to law school. ;O)</p>
<p>pm me kitty… I wil let you know whatsup</p>
<p>Lookin4ward: any info that you’ve compiled on comparison from the difference between what Law School you end up going to? I’m talking about aside from t-14 listings and such?</p>
<p>I’m pulling this from my copy of the Princeton’s Review’s, “The Best 172 Law Schools” 2011 Edition word for word…</p>
<p>“Getting In”</p>
<p>“Good luck. Berkeley Law receives approximately 8,000 applications annually for fewer than 300 first-year spots. The average GPA for enrolled students is 3.83, and the average LSAT score is 168, but the LSAT range is quite broad. Berkeley Law also prides itself on considering more than just an applicant’s grades and test scores, reviewing extracurricular activities, achievements, and the overcoming of obstacles when making an admissions decision.”</p>
<p>Works Cited</p>
<p>Owens, Eric. “University of California - Berkeley.” The Best 172 Law Schools. New York: Random House, 2010. 260+. Print.</p>
<p>Yea Berkeley has a more holistic process compared to other schools. </p>
<p>Outside the T14 you mean pavin? Northwestern is a great school that caters to students that have work experience. They usually accept lower gpa’s if you have about 2 years WE and a good LSAT. </p>
<p>Well California has good law schools. UC Davis is ranked 23, UCLA and USC are outside the T14, but in top 20, and UC Irvine just opened up a few years ago and sent more students to clerk with judges than Harvard in its 2nd year. </p>
<p>It depends on what do you want to do. Outside the T14, Biglaw chances drop accordingly. So are you Biglaw are bust (to pay off the huge law school debt) or want to do public interest. Do you want to stay in SoCal or NorCal…wanny try for NY? So…it depends.</p>
<p>hang out in this forum and you can get a taste of what law school, admissions, and job prospects are really like:
[Top</a> Law Schools](<a href=“http://www.top-law-schools.com/]Top”>http://www.top-law-schools.com/)</p>
<p>Most non-T14 law schools aren’t worth going to right now. The legal profession is in ruins and even a lot of T5 students are striking out at BigLaw. If you want to go outside of the T14, it’s probably only worth it if you get a big scholarship or if you specialize (tax law is good, but you need accounting undergrad, intellectual property is amazing, except that you need to major in science/engineering in undergrad). Even if you want to do public interest, the best public interest jobs go to people who clerk. The best clerkships go to T14 kids. </p>
<p>Also, look up “law school predictor”. It doesn’t have perfect accuracy, especially since you don’t have an LSAT, but it’s good enough.</p>
<p>Bad News: You basically need to go T14 or close to it for it to be worth it
Good News: The LSAT can mitigate a low GPA and is VERY learnable</p>
<p>dark saber, aside from the specializing, you don’t know what you are talking about. </p>
<p>Thats why I posted a forum for current and future law school students. </p>
<p>There is more to the equation than just T14. Depending on what and where you want to practice lends to how to pick a law school to apply to. There are great regional schools that do well in the region they are. Fordham in NY is a feeder to top firms and is respected in NY. </p>
<p>The problem is when you go to law school, everyone is created equal and your grades are one big huge curve. No matter how smart you are or how well you think you are going to do, the reality is you are in a class with the same similar academic strengths as you. Automatically 50 percent are not going to make the middle cutoff for whats good grades, and only 10 percent will make, surprise, the top 10% of the class. </p>
<p>So what does that mean? Seriously weight the pros and cons of law school. Big Firms pay 160k, while if you want to be a District Attorney (you do not need to be a clerk) expect to make 40-60k depending on where you live. That’s the reality. There are way more lawyers than jobs and there is no guarantee you will make it to the big leagues.</p>
<p>there is a law school forum also on CC. But honestly, if you want to go to law school and be successful, TLS (Top Law Schools) forum will give you the skinny on what to expect, should you go to law school, and how to get in. </p>
<p>Go to law school if you want to be a lawyer. Don’t go for any other reason.</p>
<p>@Looking4ward: Thanks a bunch for all the info/links.
I am absolutely fine with going to an out of state law school, but also is staying within the state. I’m definitely not against going to a school outside of the infamous t14, but would like to go to an esteemed law school. So UCI, UCLA,UCD etc I’d totally be down; NY is definitely something I’d love to get to. When it does eventually come to it I’d love to practice in SoCal. </p>
<p>What I was worried about is currently with a 3.76, and hopefully keep that steady throughout UC; will I even have a chance amongst the crazy 4.3-ers? I plan to major in Poli Sci, or Phil (UCLA). </p>
<p>What I’d like to practice is something I haven’t totally figured out yet. From what I’ve briefly gathered about BigLaw is it’s very large work load, which is fine, as long as its constantly interesting for me. Something along the lines of being a DA interests me deeply. Personally it is far more in regards to the content of what I’m working on rather than the work load etc. What I am sure of is that I want to become a lawyer.</p>
<p>With that g.p.a you would be a good candidate to a top school…if you get a good LSAT. Keep up the grades and score over 170/173 and you could go to any law school in the country. No one can give you any advice until you are about to graduate and you have a LSAT score to compare.</p>
<p>3.76 and 173 does not mean acceptance at every school in the country, haha. 3.9 and 173 still puts harvard and yale at ‘consider’ on law school predictor</p>
<p>Yeesh, honestly I never expected to have a chance at those schools regardless.</p>
<p>Was wondering if it makes a difference from where you got your Bachelor’s to the law schools?
For example would I be more competitive if I got a 4.0 at UCI, or a 3.7 at UCLA? Or if my gpa would be exactly the same, what difference would it make?</p>
<p>@Pavin</p>
<p>It’s generally accepted that the GPA and LSAT scores are the primary determining factors in law school admissions. Where you attended undergrad is usually unimportant. In your scenario, the 4.0 from UCI would definitely trump the 3.7 from UCLA.</p>
<p>Wow, so go to an easy UC; get amazing grades… go to t14 law school?</p>
<p>Pretty much. The only time I can see the soft factor of where you went to undergrad comes in is when you’re comparing a 4.0 from say, Berkeley with a 4.0 from CSU Dominguez Hills. Then the edge might shift to the Berkeley applicant. But that 4.0 will have had a much more difficult time trying to acquire that grade as opposed to the one that went to the CSU. So weighing the odds, it’s much easier to go to an easy undergrad route to get that high GPA and LSAT score to be accepted into a top tiered law school.</p>