<p>I'm a non-trad looking to return to school, enroll in a CCC, and hopefully transfer to Cal's CoE for their industrial engineering program. I've been doing a little research on what pre-reqs I should be taking, and am a little worried about what I see on assist.org. </p>
<p>Getting the core math/physics/chem/english classes out of the way shouldn't be a problem, however there's a list of "strongly recommended" engineering classes that will "strengthen my application" that have little articulation from my local CCCs. It recommends 9 units from a variety of CivE/MechE classes like solid mechanics, systems, engineering geology etc. I searched around the local colleges around me and none of the top ones seem to offer them (Pasadena CC, Santa Monica, Glendale, etc.) There are two classes for engineering graphics/drawing I could take at PCC, though, but those will only account for 5 units.</p>
<p>(It is also "highly recommended" that I take one of three C/C++/Java programming courses, fortunately I can articulate one of those.)</p>
<p>If I take all the the core classes + drafting + programming courses I'll end up with 61 units. Assuming I score a high GPA in these courses, would I be a good transfer candidate?</p>
<p>You should be okay. Chances are, if you can’t find these classes, chances are no one else can either. I know there’s a couple like that for EECS (CS61A, CS70, etc) so it’s likely other majors have a couple courses like that as well. It can also help to take other engineering courses your school offers, even if there’s no articulation for them.</p>
<p>Courses not available to you at community colleges need to be taken after transfer.</p>
<p>Fortunately, most of these are only electives, and not key prerequisites to upper division IEOR courses. You can check the degree worksheet here:</p>
<p><a href=“http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/requirements/tele-bears-enrollment-degree-audit-reports-degree-worksheets/degree-worksheets/degree-worksheets-pdf/2012-2013-worksheets/2012-2013%20IEOR%20worksheet.pdf[/url]”>http://coe.berkeley.edu/students/current-undergraduates/requirements/tele-bears-enrollment-degree-audit-reports-degree-worksheets/degree-worksheets/degree-worksheets-pdf/2012-2013-worksheets/2012-2013%20IEOR%20worksheet.pdf</a></p>
<p>and the IEOR course listing here:</p>
<p>[General</a> Catalog - Industrial Engineering Courses](<a href=“http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Industrial+Engineering&p_dept_cd=IND+ENG&p_path=l]General”>http://general-catalog.berkeley.edu/catalog/gcc_list_crse_req?p_dept_name=Industrial+Engineering&p_dept_cd=IND+ENG&p_path=l)</p>
<p>You may want to maximize coverage of other requirements by completing, in addition to the English R1A-R1B courses, two additional humanities and/or social studies courses in subjects that you would like to take upper division courses in. The Berkeley College of Engineering requires at least two upper division humanities and/or social studies courses, at least one of which must be in the same department as another (lower or upper division) humanities and/or social studies course. In addition, if your community college has a course that articulates to cover Berkeley’s American Cultures requirement, you may want to make such a course one of your humanities and/or social studies courses.</p>
<p>Good info. Thanks, guys/gals!</p>
<p>You should be fine. They don’t penalize you for not taking classes not available to you. If you have a high GPA you should be fine.</p>
<p>However…it will always strengthen your application if you showed that you took initiative and traveled to a college that did offer it. For example, you could spend a semester (or just a summer session) in a different city whose CCC does offer the classes. Or you could take the classes during the summer at UCLA. Even if you choose not to go to UCLA, the classes will remain on your UC transcript, which I personally think is a plus. </p>
<p>You definitely want to make sure that all of your major pre-reqs are completed with high grades, along with whatever GE you decide to do. This alone will make you a competitive applicant. If you have the money and time during the summer, I would highly recommend taking an engineering class at UCLA (preferably one not offered at the CCCs but still a major <em>requirement,</em> not just a recommendation). This will help you stand out more.</p>
<p>@LAHopeful, do what you can to take the “strongly recommended” classes. What Berkeley says on paper (not penalizing students for courses not offered at their CCC) is hard to implement in practice (highly competitive applicants with ALL “strongly recommended” classes completed will almost always look better than students with none). Consider how selective some of the engineering majors are (many have dipped below 10% admit rate for the Fall 2012 cycle), anything you can do to make yourself competitive will help.</p>